If I heard right during the demonstration, the spark was 11 pulses per
minute, but I didn't hear a duty cycle mentioned.


On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:30 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> The spark (plasma activation mechanism) lasts for 12 seconds. The reaction
> is then active for about 6 minutes. This cannot be a hot fusion mechanism.
>
> The spark produces nanoparticles that are gradually consumed, It is LENR
> for sure.
>
>
> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 10:21 PM, Chuck Sites <cbsit...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Very interesting discussions.  Thanks Axil for the two links in your
>> earlier note..  I saw the video, but I wasn't aware of the paper
>> presentation that described the isotopic shifts.   So far, it looks like a
>> very convincing experiment that looks to have nuclear origins.   There are
>> so many interesting points to bring up.  For example the high voltage
>> pulses from the modified spark plugs.  That''s all secret IP, but at 10Kv
>> pulsed, that has to be creating a plasma of hot H ions, and then assuming
>> the Ni is the ground, it shouldn't surprise anyone that H ions are being
>> accelerated into the NI nano powder.   10Kv is enough to circumvent
>> the Coulomb barrier when you consider the screening potential of the
>> metal's valence electrons.
>>
>> If that is the case, then this is more of a hot fusion processes, a
>> controlled bombardment of the Ni/H lattice.  You can almost thing of the Ni
>> as forming a scaffolding to hold in place the H ions, and as spark plugs
>> pulse, wave after wave of hot H ions would be bombarding the Ni.  The fact
>> that the cross section for a fusion event seems broad is unusual, but there
>> may be more Ni + p reactions than p + p.
>>
>> Do you need Rydberg atoms to do that?  I would really like to read the
>> Kim paper before dumping on the Rydberg concept,  but to me, this is an
>> unnecessarily complex physics state to achieve in a solid state (or nano
>> structure), when a simple hot fusion explanation might work.     So I'm
>> kind of with Jed in my hesitation about accepting the whole presentation by
>> Defkcalion.   Let me point out what is odd;   The stainless steel container
>> that has heat transfer coil around it.  If you look at the diagrams, that
>> should be pumped with hydrogen.  Shouldn't there be an electrically
>> insulating barrier between the hydrogen (plasma) and the stainless steel?
>>  If not then why isn't the H plasma interacting with the casing?
>>
>> Anyway, more food for thought.
>> Best Regards folks.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Jul 30, 2013 at 6:10 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Arnaud Kodeck <arnaud.kod...@lakoco.be> wrote:
>>>
>>>  As said before by Jed, this is a full list of theoretical speculations
>>>> put one after another one. There no experiments that confirm their
>>>> speculations.
>>>>
>>>
>>> This list is an informal discussion. There is no harm in saying anything
>>> here. I am referring to a paper published by Defkalion in a physics
>>> conference proceedings. That is a very different thing. The standards of
>>> rigor should be higher for that.
>>>
>>>
>>> ****
>>>>
>>>> Did they make any measurements about Rydberg hydrogen? The EM field
>>>> that they are claiming should have been measured with precision. Or are
>>>> they hiding the proof?
>>>>
>>>
>>> I sure hope they did. Otherwise they should not mention it. But it isn't
>>> enough to just measure things. You have to list the sources in parenthesis
>>> and footnotes. For example, when Defkalion claimed that they used a variety
>>> of nickel isotopes, they should have listed the mass and the source of the
>>> isotopes. Isotopically pure samples are rare so you should list where you
>>> got them and how pure they are, so that other people can judge your
>>> results. This rule of thumb only applies to exotic materials. If it was
>>> some material that you can get from any supply house, such as nickel wire,
>>> there is no need to list the source.
>>>
>>> In the case of palladium you should always list the source, such as
>>> Johnson Matthey. The source makes a big difference.
>>>
>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>> The Defkalion theory might be right to explain the excess heat of the
>>>> hyperion. But it might be as well something else that produces the extra
>>>> energy.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Perhaps. They claim they know the source of the heat. They should make a
>>> careful, rigorous case in a paper to back this up.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>> I hope the realtime spectrometer they are building with R6 reactor will
>>>> open our eyes to what’s going on inside.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I hope so. (Question: Will it work for elements other than hydrogen and
>>> helium? I have seen some light-element-only on-line spectrometers.)
>>>
>>>
>>> I don’t blame Defkalion. They have made tremendous steps in the right
>>>> direction, and given a lot of hints to the public.
>>>>
>>>
>>> I think the presentation at ICCF17 and 18 were a little slack by the
>>> standards of academic physics. There are many slack presentations at these
>>> conferences. I think we should cut back on them, and relegate more of them
>>> to the poster sessions.
>>>
>>> I cannot judge Kim's presentation. I gather (now) that it was supposed
>>> to be the proof for Defkalion's claims. Perhaps it was. It is over my head.
>>> It seems mostly theoretical rather than being based on experimental
>>> evidence.
>>>
>>> - Jed
>>>
>>>
>>
>

Reply via email to