The real weasel at CalTech is
Goodstein<http://www.its.caltech.edu/~dg/fusion_art.html> --
basically realizing that CalTech had committed a crime against humanity and
trying to write a historic placeholder they can point to to say "See!  We
didn't really deny it!  It wasn't our fault!"


On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:57 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Lewis is an embarrassment in a number of ways:
>
> A) Lewis' claim about improper stirring was a joke and created a huge
> smokescreen because he announced it flippantly and matter of factly at APS.
>
> B) I think it was a few months later, Fleischmann and Lewis were both at
> the same ACS (pretty sure) meeting, where F presented excess heat in the
> majority of his cells. Lewis didn't raise a peep, not about stirring, not
> about anything, whereas prior he was one of the noisiest and most sarcastic
> deniers, spouting off whenever given the opportunity.
>
> C) This surprised me when I read about it. He actually visited McKubre at
> SRI (along with Richard Garwin no less), found nothing wrong with the
> process, and still remained completely silent. Never retracting a single
> prior damaging statement.
>
> Now Caltech, and their "heroes" Lewis and Koonin, can continue their
> charade of defending the world from the "pathological science" boogeyman.
>
>
> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 6:26 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Wait just a second, Dr. Cranks doesn't hold a candle to Dr. NATHAN LEWIS
>> (Cal Tech) in his devastating conclusion to the fiasco of the century:
>> "This experiment hasn’t been reproduced by any national laboratory or any
>> university yet without a good football team."  I'm afraid Dr. Cranks is
>> _not_ "the best" hence now is not a good time to admit defeat and save
>> face.  If one wanted to save face one would have admitted being defeated by
>> Dr. Nathan Lewis's argument when he made it.  Its too late for us now.  We
>> must labor on supporting the untenable belief in the possibility that
>> something interesting happened in F&P's electrolytic cells lo these many
>> years ago.  We are, as Dr. Cranks stated, going to die defending our
>> delusions.  Its tragic.  I really feel for us.
>>
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:07 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Well, I suppose being beaten by *the best* isn't too much of an
>>> embarrassment is it?  Now's a good time to admit defeat and save face, for
>>> sure.
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 4:57 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> James,
>>>>
>>>> Lets just admit we've been beaten by the best, shall we?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 5:54 PM, James Bowery <jabow...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Did Dr. Cranks ever get around to describing why it is we are to
>>>>> ignore IBM's *empirical* result of room-temperature BECs when, as
>>>>> anyone with a preschool education knows that, room-temperature BECs are
>>>>> impossible?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Dec 17, 2013 at 3:43 PM, John Franks <jf27...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Quickly scanning it (I'm reading it on a small screen on a sea
>>>>>> ferry), the premise is that the deuterons don't obey MB statistics 
>>>>>> (wrong,
>>>>>> density not high enough), that there needs to be some modification to the
>>>>>> tail-off of the statistics too and that the crossing of grain boundaries
>>>>>> relieves the deuterons of their kinetic energy.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From all this, supposedly all these heavy deuterons can then condense
>>>>>> into a BEC state. Then from this belief he derives some bogus selection
>>>>>> rules which favors helium production. He derives some nuclear rate
>>>>>> reactions that are devoid of the Gamow factor and hails this as proof 
>>>>>> that
>>>>>> the Coulomb repulsion has been overcome and furthermore, since his
>>>>>> deuterons have gone into the BEC state, the nuclear reactions he wants 
>>>>>> then
>>>>>> proceed with vigor.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So, like I said, who is citing this paper, what was its readership,
>>>>>> who cast a critical eye over it? Having something published doesn't make 
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> right, it's the start of the discussion. SO WHO WAS THE INTENDED AUDIENCE
>>>>>> IN THIS BIOLOGY JOURNAL!!!
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>

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