FYI
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Efimov_state Three Body coherence. On Sun, Jan 19, 2014 at 10:47 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: > About 7 years ago here on Vortex - before the plasmon/polariton technology > was being spread around cyberspace as being particularly relevant to some > types of LENR (by NASA no less)- and long before the Rossi HotCat, we > raised > a relevant issue called "triple coherency". > > Basically, the question was posed: What would happens if one can engineer a > constant and coherent flux of three different forms of mass/energy within a > closed reactor: > > 1) photons > 2) electrons (local AC) > 3) phonons > > And moreover would a "new kind of condensate" emerge? A 'new kind of > condensate' means a macro-state in which we are not restricted by bosons or > by near zero Kelvin temperatures, but are considering the next larger > plateau of interlocking geometries, which are conjoined by abnormal but > coherent energy dynamics at a higher level. It is misleading to refer to > this as a BEC. > > Forcing all three parameters into some kind of mutual coherency (or > superradiance) would be limited by several factors, mostly by the geometric > excursion possibilities of the heaviest (densest) component: phonons. > Therefore this kind of triple-coherency could probably only happen in the > IR > (far infrared or FIR) spectrum, since melting or easy deformation of the > lattice structure would be expected at anything over about 1000C. > > This state of dynamic triple-coherency, which is happening well above the > cryogenic range of the BEC, could be a 'sine qua non' of one very special > form of LENR - the Rossi effect. > > BTW - we call this technology "nickel-hydrogen", but the lattice can be > composed of other transition metals or alloys, besides nickel. I mention > that to counter one of Mills remarks that his reaction is not like Rossi's > because he does not need nickel per se. Nickel happens to have the needed > lattice (phonon and magnetic) properties at a relatively low price, but the > Rossi effect can probably happen without it. > > Anyway, looking back on this flash of insight (triple coherency) now, it > seems pretty clear that the hypothesis fits quite well with the idea of > surface plasmons being stimulated by IR in the range seen in the HotCat > which seems to involve geometry of 5-30 microns for the phonon or exciton, > and with a corresponding electron "hole" of a similar dimension, and 3-30 > THz for the photon and the plasmon, around which we find a local AC field. > > Therefore, to put an actual value on the key variable which is to be made > coherent - we could start with something like 27 THz as the desired > frequency. Check out the extremely sharp peak here between 10.5 and 11 > microns. This is why the HotCat is using SiC. > > http://arxiv.org/pdf/astro-ph/9903031.pdf > > Jones > > >