Axil—Bob Cook here-- I would note that the discussion in Wikipedia applies to a hydrogen molecular QM system. The individual protons retain their 1/2 spin. When a Hydrogen enters a matrix it may remain as a molecule or it may enter as an ion. If there is an ionization process available, it probably enters as an ion. In the Ni-H system it is not clear to me what happens. Rossi is vague. Once in the Ni system the magnetic fields would influence what happens next to each of the various hydrogen molecule isomers identified in the Wikipedia item, if they enter the matrix as a molecule.
Ed may know what happens when hydrogen is mixed with Ni or Ni nano particles under 12 Atmospheres. Ionization within or without the matrix may be influenced by Rossi’s catalist. Keep in mind the reaction, whatever it is, must conserve spin. Therefore it may be more probable that the isomer with 0 spin is the one that reacts last since it would have a lower energy then the other isomers and would take more activation energy to react. However, if two protons with antiparallel spins are found together in a single Ni matrix cell flooded with electrons, it may be possible to form a D (+ CHARGE AND 0 SPIN) using 1 eletron and producing 1 positron. Angular momentum and spin would be conserved. The big question is whether the molecular spin of the original H molecule being 0 can couple to the nuclear process which ends up with 0 spin. Other Hydrogen molecular isomers may also react under different conditions and differing schemes for spin conservation. Bob From: Axil Axil Upon further reflection, the paired proton conjecture may be on the right track after all. In the ICCF-18 paper, Dr. Yeong E. Kim defines his reactions in terms of deuterons, but deuteron formation can only happen when the hydrogen isotope used in the LENR reaction is deuterium. When protium hydrogen having a single proton and zero neutrons is used, only protons form the hydrogen nucleus. Deuteron formation cannot happen because there are no neutrons in the hydrogen. So to form a hydrogen nuclear pair, only protons are available and not deuterons. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spin_isomers_of_hydrogen The parahydrogen form of hydrogen spin isomers has zero spin and itas consistent with the zero spin rule of thumb for photofusion. Dr. Kim may have made a major mistake by taking his deuteron base theory of Pt/D fusion and moved it unmodified into the Ni/H reactor theory. This error is what has confused me lately. If I am not thinking correctly, please correct me. On Wed, Feb 12, 2014 at 9:07 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: I stand corrected. Dr. Yeong E. has proposed a double deuteron pair as the boson component of his Bose Einstein condensate theory for many years. The ion member of the hydrogen dipole will be a deuteron so a cluster fusion reaction consistent with Kim would include those neutrons in that hydrogen ion pair. So sorry, please excuse me, I just made a human mistake and was not trying to aggravate Ed. On Tue, Feb 11, 2014 at 12:55 AM, Eric Walker <eric.wal...@gmail.com> wrote: On Mon, Feb 10, 2014 at 11:12 AM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote: [From Axil] It is a safe assumption that pairing of protons is occurring. I see no reason for this assumption. Such pairs are only found in H2, which is not nuclear reactive. Ed, Axil is playing with you. See: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=forum+troll Eric
