The spatial relationships between the discs and clocks is not clear.
Can you draw a diagram of the experiment?

harry


On Mon, Feb 24, 2014 at 10:34 PM, John Berry <berry.joh...@gmail.com> wrote:

> For brevity, I will explain it in sentence. and the possible results in a
> few more, But the longer form solves questions and objections:
>
> Take 2 light sensors separated at an appropriate distance, the censors are
> shaped like CD and are transparent, designated A and B, rotate them at high
> enough velocity so that the time dilation associated with General
> Relativity (GR) applying (gravitational equivalence time dilation) can be
> measured, and let sensor A send a signal to both clocks, and sensor B also
> sends a signal to both clocks.
> If we expect light to be seen as C (assuming a vacuum) by both clocks we
> have a problem since there are only 2 sensors, not 2 sets of sensors and
> one close is slow.
>
> If light is somehow seems to be moving less than C by the non time dilated
> clock, then if additional non-rotating sensors A2 and B2 are placed right
> next to sensors A and B less than a mm apart then we would then expect to
> find these sensors A2 and B2 to give the right answer to our normal clock
> to get the expected velocity?
>
> But then censors B and B2 which are almost in the same exact place would
> not see the photon at the same time, the second sensor B2 would see it
> first, and later the slightly closer censor would!
>
> And it gets worse, from the rotating sensors and rotating clocks view
> light is not taking the most direct path between the 2 censors, it is on an
> angle, so the light is moving further in the rotated (slow clock) frame and
> doing it in less time than the shorter distance would be expected to take
> provided you assume that the previous example of B2 detecting something
> before the ever so slightly closer B censor is not possible.
>
> About the only half way sensible way out of these impossibilities is to
> assume that all the space between any 2 co-moving objects that could be
> measuring light also gets time dilated?? And that is the most sensible but
> still obviously wrong conclusion I can find.
>
> If you object that the time dilation means finding light the be faster
> than C is fine, then read on, but note that even without time dilation the
> light would still exceed C from taking a longer path..
>
>
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