----- Original Message -----
From: Bob Cook
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 12:32 PM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"
Dave--
It may be that the electrons are moving in a group (a solariton) in the local
magnetic field and the solariton magnetic moment is in fact lined up properly
so that only one direction is possible. Apparently they are relatively stable
given the proplems they have in getting rid of their energy and angular
momentum once formed.
As suggested, the solariton having considerable angular momentum for a single
entity, some of the energy may be distributed to the spin of other particles in
the QM system.
As I noted yesterday, stemming from Jones' good literature search regarding
SPP, Dr. JS Brown's paper (noted below) is pertinent. Also Axil must be
properly recognized for his SPP knowledge and reviews.
arXiv.org > cond-mat > arXiv:0711.1878
Bob Cook
----- Original Message -----
From: David Roberson
To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
Sent: Sunday, March 02, 2014 11:29 AM
Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"
The source of the magnetic field is the big question. No doubt that
electrons in motion throughout the active material could generate the field,
but I ask myself why these electrons happen to be typically moving in the same
direction since if they are randomly released by the reaction, their effect
would balance out on the large scale.
We now suspect that a positive feedback mechanism is able to direct the LENR
such that new fusions reinforce the original magnetic field. If an electron is
released within a strong magnetic field, it can freely follow the lines of
flux. But that motion would generate a tiny field at right angles to the large
guiding one. This behavior just does not appear to result in positive feedback.
Like you, I have difficulty believing that all the energy is released in the
form of heat. There is an out to this problem if the energy is released into a
collective system of charged particles in the nearby lattice. And, if the
guiding magnetic field acts as a coupling mechanism between the nearby
electrons for example and the fusion site, then perhaps a large retarding force
can be presented to the active site allowing energy to couple away. The
instantaneous magnetic field that a newly accelerated charged particle
encounters is actually determined by the history of the nearby moving charges
and not their motion at the present time.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 2:04 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"
I believe that heat is not the only product of the LENR reaction. It may not
even the most important sink for LENR power generation. I believe that electron
production is a major magnification of over unity power generation.
Rossi indicated that there was an unknown source of current production in his
reactor and he was looking into how this could happen.
I know that the PAPP engine produced current out of whole cloth. The design
of the engine depended on it.
Here is my take on where these electrons are coming from. When the magnetic
field strength gets strong enough, mesons are condensed out of the vacuum. The
final decay products of mesons are electrons.
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:34 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:
I also find it amazing that DGT seems to overlook the implications of their
discovery. It reminds me of not seeing the forest through the trees.
Since Rossi made an earlier claim that he might be able to generate
electricity directly by some obscure discovery, I suspect that he realized the
importance of the large magnetic fields residing within his device. So far he
has kept this type of information private, carefully leaking out the news of
some non specific discovery. Rossi knows when to release findings that might
assist competitors.
Dave
-----Original Message-----
From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
Sent: Sun, Mar 2, 2014 1:23 pm
Subject: Re: [Vo]:"Christopher H. Cooper"
Like you, any one of us can only do so much of what is required. To come
up with an all inclusive theory, we must trust the word and the work done by
others.
I must admit that I trust DGT. So far, their experimental observation about
magnetic field strength has no impact on the theory (HEMI) that they put
forward.
They have no theroritical based interest in misleading us to advance their
theory base on Dr. Kims work.
Like us, DGT is simply amazed at the magnetic nature of their experimental
find but have not connected it to HEMI in any way. This is hard to understand.
On the part of DGT, there is no self interest in tossing an almost
unbelievable finding into their finding and in fact this finding undercuts HEMI.
In fact such a finding is a major distraction. They really need to do a
major rethink of their experimental position on HEMI and BEC as per Dr. Kim.
On Sun, Mar 2, 2014 at 1:03 PM, Edmund Storms <stor...@ix.netcom.com> wrote:
On Mar 2, 2014, at 10:47 AM, Axil Axil wrote:
> These Nanoplasmonic experiments with uranium can be done inexpensively,
why can’t Ed replicate these experiments?
Because I have only two hands and no financial support. If you want this
replicated, I suggest you hire someone to do this.
Ed Storms
