Fran, Jones, Frank, Axil, Dave, etal-- I think that Jones summary is right on. Too many things fit together. It deserves a paper. If nowhere else with Jed.
Bob ----- Original Message ----- From: Roarty, Francis X To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Sent: Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:29 AM Subject: RE: [Vo]:Magnetic permeability and LENR Jones said [snip] IOW - an oscillation between bound and unbound modes of two atoms in a nanocavity creates a strong near-field magnetic flux at terahertz frequency which diminishes rapidly with distance. Thus the magnetic permeability of the walls of the cavity are important to capture a percentage of that flux. Mu metal is at least 10 times more capable (higher permeability) than nickel to capture near field flux.[/snip] Jones, Nicely said, this idea is a real good candidate for linkage of energy to the walls and plays into issue of atomic vs molecular populations and runaway or starvation of the effect. It would fit into the puzzle nicely! Fran _____________________________________________ From: Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net] Sent: Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:44 PM To: vortex-l@eskimo.com Subject: EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Magnetic permeability and LENR To clarify: If the LENR reaction, at any stage, involves hydrogen flipping rapidly from ortho to para alignment (THz) then that spin-energy could be converted to heat by Mu Metal foil as both the electrode and flux sink.. the tritium reaction which occurs with deuterium (Claytor) could be the result of heat having been extracted instead of the cause of that heat. This is not as crazy as it sounds, at least not in QM. Imagine a large number of nanocavities which have been formed into nickel, using Mizuno's glow discharge technique. The SEM images indicate that these cavities are like surface blisters, raised on the formerly flat surface. D2 is contained therein and at a threshold temperature, can go into a spin-flipping mode where the molecules flip from ortho-to-para alignment rapidly and/or from atomic to molecular form (or both) like a see-saw. The effective magnetic field of any atom of deuterium is 12.5 T but the molecule is diamagnetic. That creates a strong changing flux pattern (which may not be conserved) but that near-field flux would not be noticed unless the cavity walls can convert it into heat. IOW - an oscillation between bound and unbound modes of two atoms in a nanocavity creates a strong near-field magnetic flux at terahertz frequency which diminishes rapidly with distance. Thus the magnetic permeability of the walls of the cavity are important to capture a percentage of that flux. Mu metal is at least 10 times more capable (higher permeability) than nickel to capture near field flux. Once the two deuterium atoms have given up significant levels of spin energy to their surroundings, then the Oppenheimer-Philips effect happens at a reduced threshold to give tritium. OP is a quantum effect - not a thermonuclear effect. It is the result of excess heat having been already extracted - and not the cause of that heat. In the case of hydrogen, no secondary fusion reaction (or side-effect reaction) is possible as is the case with bosonic deuterium (due to Pauli exclusion). The result with H2 is two energy depleted protons which can no longer shed energy and effectively go cold, or else they capture fractional electrons at close radius and go dark. Mills defines dark energy as highly redundant ground state hydrogen - but he may have missed that the primary way protons can do this is via magnetic spin coupling - and not his way - which involves impossibly high levels of ionization. Both ways are possible, even in the same reaction - but the Rossi effect does not require extreme ionization, and Mills does require it.
