I agree, that is good stuff, even I can understand parts of it.

On Thu, Mar 27, 2014 at 11:11 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote:

>  Fran, Jones, Frank, Axil, Dave, etal--
>
> I think that Jones summary is right on.  Too many things fit together.  It
> deserves a paper.  If nowhere else with Jed.
>
> Bob
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Roarty, Francis X <francis.x.roa...@lmco.com>
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 27, 2014 7:29 AM
> *Subject:* RE: [Vo]:Magnetic permeability and LENR
>
> Jones said [snip] IOW - an oscillation between bound and unbound modes of
> two atoms in a nanocavity creates a strong near-field magnetic flux at
> terahertz frequency which diminishes rapidly with distance. Thus the
> magnetic permeability of the walls of the cavity are important to capture a
> percentage of that flux. Mu metal is at least 10 times more capable (higher
> permeability) than nickel to capture near field flux.[/snip]
>
> Jones,
> Nicely said, this idea is a real good candidate for linkage of energy to
> the walls and plays into issue of atomic vs molecular populations  and
> runaway or starvation of the effect. It would fit into the puzzle nicely!
> Fran
>
>
> _____________________________________________
> *From:* Jones Beene [mailto:jone...@pacbell.net <jone...@pacbell.net>]
> *Sent:* Wednesday, March 26, 2014 12:44 PM
> *To:* vortex-l@eskimo.com
> *Subject:* EXTERNAL: RE: [Vo]:Magnetic permeability and LENR
>
>
> To clarify:
>
> If the LENR reaction, at any stage, involves hydrogen flipping rapidly
> from ortho to para alignment (THz) then that spin-energy could be converted
> to heat by Mu Metal foil as both the electrode and flux sink.... the tritium
> reaction which occurs with deuterium (Claytor) could be the result of heat
> having been extracted instead of the cause of that heat.
>
> This is not as crazy as it sounds, at least not in QM.
>
> Imagine a large number of nanocavities which have been formed into nickel,
> using Mizuno's glow discharge technique. The SEM images indicate that these
> cavities are like surface blisters, raised on the formerly flat surface.
>
> D2 is contained therein and at a threshold temperature, can go into a
> spin-flipping mode where the molecules flip from ortho-to-para alignment
> rapidly and/or from atomic to molecular form (or both) like a see-saw. The
> effective magnetic field of any atom of deuterium is 12.5 T but the
> molecule is diamagnetic. That creates a strong changing flux pattern (which
> may not be conserved) but that near-field flux would not be noticed unless
> the cavity walls can convert it into heat.
>
> IOW - an oscillation between bound and unbound modes of two atoms in a
> nanocavity creates a strong near-field magnetic flux at terahertz frequency
> which diminishes rapidly with distance. Thus the magnetic permeability of
> the walls of the cavity are important to capture a percentage of that flux.
> Mu metal is at least 10 times more capable (higher permeability) than
> nickel to capture near field flux.
>
> Once the two deuterium atoms have given up significant levels of spin
> energy to their surroundings, then the Oppenheimer-Philips effect happens
> at a reduced threshold to give tritium. OP is a quantum effect - not a
> thermonuclear effect. It is the result of excess heat having been already
> extracted - and not the cause of that heat.
>
> In the case of hydrogen, no secondary fusion reaction (or side-effect
> reaction) is possible as is the case with bosonic deuterium (due to Pauli
> exclusion). The result with H2 is two energy depleted protons which can no
> longer shed energy and effectively go cold, or else they capture fractional
> electrons at close radius and go dark.
>
> Mills defines dark energy as highly redundant ground state hydrogen - but
> he may have missed that the primary way protons can do this is via magnetic
> spin coupling - and not his way - which involves impossibly high levels of
> ionization. Both ways are possible, even in the same reaction - but the
> Rossi effect does not require extreme ionization, and Mills does require it.
>
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