On Thu, May 8, 2014 at 6:56 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote:
> -----Original Message----- > From: Bob Cook > > >>>As a general rule – therefore it can be said that there is no > correlation > between loading ratio and heat unless it is related to isotopes, meaning > that this detail about the lack of any correlation can be limited to > hydrogen (protium) and does not necessarily apply to deuterium<<< > > I do not agree. If the loading causes micro cracking in the Pd matrix, it > very well may correlate with heat. Micro cracking would apply equally to H > and D and thus would suggest that D is necessary for the NAE reaction to > occur in Pd. Since the loading near the surface is significantly greater > than away from the surface, the cracking near the surface could be expected > to be more frequent with higher NAE density. > > Bob, > > Yes, micro cracking would apply equally. > > But your logical error is in assuming that cracking is necessary for gain. > > It isn't, depending of course on how it is defined. Cracking is one of > many possible routes to gain and NOT the only route by far. At the > nanoscale, it would be irrelevant anyway. > > In the Pd matrix for instance, cracking correlates to excess heat with > deuterium, and NOT with hydrogen. In fact some of the SEM images of the > Arata-type particles which give excess heat with nickel have no cracking > per se, since they are essentially too small to crack. > > This material is active for hydrogen and has no cracking. I believe Brad > Lowe may be sending some of his supply to Quantum Heat. > > > http://www.quantumheat.org/images/NanoPowders/Quantum_Sphere_Nano_Nickel_SEM.jpg > > > I think that this discussion will end without an unanimously accepted > conclusion; this happens in the 26th year of Cold Fusion history- isn't this disturbing? Add to this the fact that excess heat happens only in a few cases of many for all the parameters described here, so we have a problem. A wicked problem. Taking in account this essential problem solving rule: " NOT what we know, but what we don‟t know is more important for solving the problem. it is very plausible that we still do NOT KNOW something vital for excess heat to happen and io be useful and controllable. It seems there are unknown, hidden parameters- and these are even more relevant than those discussed here.One of these could be the presence of gases (any gas that is not hydrogen, all the components of air) on the active surfaces. JUst to mention that today is the 17th anniversary of my first formulation of this poisoning hypothesis that was never taken seriously by my colleagues working with Pd D. On the NiH line, Piantelli and Defkalion claim deep degassing i.e. aliengas-free surfaces area sine qua non condition of excess heat. This discussion has started from Jed's FQXI essay. An essay with a very significant title (not content) for CF is "You cannot live in the Cradle forever" However if you do not want to grow and mature, the Cradle is just fine. Peter -- Dr. Peter Gluck Cluj, Romania http://egooutpeters.blogspot.com
