Crap like this is so obscene that it seems like the concoction of its
enemies or of some continuation of what many hypothesize is Rossi's
perverse strategy of surrounding the E-Cat with repellent so he has time to
work out his own problems before serious players stomp on him.


On Thu, May 22, 2014 at 2:20 PM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sun, May 18, 2014 at 1:23 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>wrote:
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>> H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> He claimed that DGT learned Rossi's trade secret. He did not say DGT
>>> "stole" it. He stated this publicly because he wanted to persuade people
>>> that DGT could build a working reactor without Rossi's help.
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>> He said they examined the powder with a mass spec in violation of
>> agreements with Rossi, and without Rossi's knowledge. That is theft of
>> trade secrets. Some of the people negotiating with him were appalled, as
>> was I. Maybe you do not think this is theft, and maybe Xanthoulis does not
>> think it is, but by the standards of U.S. business ethics, it is theft and
>> will surely mean Defkalion is not free to sell the product and they will be
>> tied up in civil suits for years if they try to sell it.
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>> I am pretty sure there will be no civil suit for trade secret theft,
>> because as far as I know they do not have a working product. Maybe they
>> tried to steal the secret, but they failed.
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> This was the press release from Rossi when he severed ties with DGT:
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> http://www.nyteknik.se/incoming/article3228357.ece/BINARY/Defkalion+EFA+breach+press+release+(pdf)
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> If Rossi was right then DGT has never known the secret. Rossi said
> elsewhere that DGT was just peddling a mock-up which they were going to
> later fill with one of his e-cat units when they became available on the
> market.
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> Harry
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>> The people at Defkalion Europe (DE) declared themselves out of business
>> as soon they discovered the claims were false and the machine does not
>> produce excess heat. I and others have praised them for doing this. In
>> point of fact, they had to do that. Any other course of action would be
>> criminal fraud. Once you know your product does not work, you have stop
>> selling it. They deserve praise for doing this quickly and decisively, and
>> for warning their customers. They deserve praise for telling Defkalion, and
>> for publishing the report.
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>> Defkalion has known their claims are wrong at least since the day after
>> ICCF18, and probably much longer. Yet they are still in business, and they
>> still claim it works. If it was was not fraud up until ICCF18, it surely is
>> now.
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>> (It might have been an idiotic mistake up until ICCF18, but I think that
>> is very unlikely, given all the times I and others warned them to do
>> reality check tests.)
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>> - Jed
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