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From: mix...@bigpond.com 

In reply to  Jones Beene's message of Sun, 8 Jun 2014 08:09:35 -0700:
Hi,
[snip]
>This hydrogen enrichment can be accomplished with a membrane which is more
>porous to hydrogen than to oxygen. Many tightly woven fabrics like Gore-Tex
>are in this category. The idea is to split the HHO into two stream, one
>H-rich and the other O-rich. The H-rich steam will be ported into one end
of
>the CC and the O-rich stream can come in from a hole drilled in the side of
>the CC. This separation via two steams provides a supply of hot H2 to react
>before it is converted to steam, but in the end, it still retains all the
>heat of the HHO plus the added heat of Ni-H. It is a bastardized approach
>but it can work.

There is an even simpler method. Just use ordinary DC electrolysis, where
the
oxygen and hydrogen are evolved at different electrodes, resulting in a
complete separation from the start.


Hi Robin

Yes, of course that would work - but most of the participants in this H-Cat
thing already have the multi-plate HHO cells, which cannot be easily
modified to do what you suggest. 

My aim was to come with a simple fix that might allow them to see Ni-H gain
with what they already have in operation.

BTW this guy on YT has an elaborate membrane system for separation:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IU6576HSrbc

...yet since complete separation is not required, a single membrane over the
bubbler can do the job cheaply and quickly. 

If the HHO, which is normally a 2:1 ratio is partially separated into two
streams, one of which is say 3:1 and the other is 1:1, then the extra
hydrogen in the first stream is not only enriched but also thermally
activated by the flame - which is the substitute for Rossi's resistance
heat. 

This could allow the Ni-H reaction to proceed on the unoxidized fraction of
hydrogen. Since the gain there is at least 6:1 according to Andrea Rossi,
then the net efficiency which is seen now could jump from 77% well into the
range of overunity... 

... with the proviso "according to Andrea Rossi" ... which does not inspire
universal confidence levels (but that may change in a couple of weeks). :-)





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