Let me clear on this point. I don't claim to be smart enough to know whether MILL's audacious, highly controversial CQM theory is an accurate theory or whether it is full of crapola as many Vorts here seem to posit. All that I know is that when I look at the latest BLP videos, what I see is a hell of a lot of laboratory experimentation that has been performed over twenty years. Correct theory or not, performing this kind of laboratory work, in my view, tends to get a lot more of my personal attention and respect as compared to reading a plethora of posts that focus on other unproven theories that are in my view equally controversial. So, what do I do under such circumstances? Well, I'd prefer to go with the folks who have been performing a lot of laboratory experimentation for the past 20 years. In UFOlogy terms, much of these kind of on-going theoretical discussions on Vort concerning critiques of Mill's audacious CQM theory strike me personally as being not all that different than what the late arch skeptic, Philip Klass did as he went about performing arm-chair research on who he wanted to debunk.
Again, I just don't know who is right and who isn't, and quite frankly, at this stage of the game it doesn't matter to me. What matters to me is whether BLP can close the loop within six months - or twelve. If BLP can close the loop, well then... maybe... just maybe something like hydrinos do exist in this wacky universe of ours. Right or wrong, I'm willing to wait and see what happens. I've learned to be a patient man when it comes to the continuing saga of BLP watching. I personally don't find it to be a waste of my time. Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks From: Axil Axil [mailto:janap...@gmail.com] Sent: Wednesday, July 16, 2014 8:29 PM To: vortex-l Subject: Re: [Vo]:Mills' Interview The feature that made the Papp engine gainful was frugal power management. The arc activated cluster explosion produced a great deal of current that Papp was able to capture and reuse in the next activation of the paired cylinder. His way of doing this capture was vary convoluted and hard to understand requiring alpha emitting electrodes stimulated by an arc mediated LENR reaction. Reusing the feedback current made the Papp engine work. Mills does not seen to attempt to capture the substantial feedback current. Until he does capture and reuse this feedback current, his COP may not reach over unity let alone exceed it. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 8:54 PM, Jack Cole <jcol...@gmail.com> wrote: I hope there is something to this, but it doesn't seem very convincing yet. I want to see how much energy they are getting out in terms of electricity vs. how much it takes to run the welder. Let's also just see the welder running doing some welding and how much power that generates from the PV cells. On Wed, Jul 16, 2014 at 5:43 PM, Orionworks - Steven Vincent Johnson <orionwo...@charter.net> wrote: Earlier today, July 16, 2014, I noticed Mills posted another statement claiming another crucial demo will likely be scheduled within another couple of months. As of July 16 2014, over in the Yahoo Society for Classical Physics group, subject thread " rumors regarding July 21st demo" Mills states: Next demonstration, in say two months, regards running the ignition off of the PV. [That sounds to me as if BLP will actually show a POC prototype that will close the loop. If so, it will be historic- svj] We have very elegant engineering designs to the optical distribution system and electronics to achieve that goal. We have to build and test them. On another matter in regards to Mills' work, I Axil recently stated: "When dielectric gases like oxygen and chlorine and some other noble gases are added to hydrogen, you get an unstable, hard to control and explosive mix which is great for a pressure based internal explosion discharge engine." Perhaps I have missed something, but Axil seems to be unaware of a crucial characteristic pertaining to BLP's "Sun Cell (TM)" explosion ratios. BLP claims their proprietary solid-fuel water infused mixture generates a kinetic expansion ratio of about 10% per ignition. A 10% expansion rate strikes me as an exceedingly weak kinetic explosion quotient. FYI, recent BLP demonstrations from June 25, 2014 (published June 29) can be viewed at: Part 1: http://youtu.be/zGTUd68hu5M Part 2: http://youtu.be/rRnfuO6uQyU I've viewed these videos back-to back several times over the last 10 days. I always seem to get a little more with each additional viewing. One has to be willing to invest several hours of one's time viewing them. Unfortunately, not many of us have several hours to kill particularly when we may already be predisposed into assuming viewing such demonstrations would be dubious at best. As for me, I wuz lucky in the sense that I had been on vacation for the past 10 days. So, I had the time. It was well worth my time. According to BLP a significant portion of the energy being generated per explosion matches the visible spectrum of our sun extraordinarily well. This would seem to lend additional support to some of Mill's controversial CQM claims. I realize some within the Vort Collective, such as Jones who likes to use the "LOL" acronym a lot when discussing Mills' claims, doesn't seem to regard CQM with high regard. As for me, I prefer to remain neutral on such matters... or "agnostic" as I noticed Mills tended to say several times, particularly when discussing which avenue might be the best path to follow when utilizing BLP technology. ;-) Setting CQM theory aside, insofar as satisfying BLP's needs are concerned, utilizing sun light appears to have been a godsend insofar as addressing a crucial need of exploiting an already well developed multi-billion dollar PV industry. The predicted amount of "Sun Cell (tm)" light to be generated when the reaction cycle is ramped up to 1000 (or 2000?) explosions per second appears to translate into an obscene amount of excess DC current - on the order of generating kilowatts and megawatts of excess electricity. I believe BLP claims several engineering firms are currently working with them on the goal of engineering a prototype capable of generating a continuous explosion rate of 1000 - 2000 per second. Apparently, from an engineering POV this should not be difficult to design. I gather designing a jet engine would be far more difficult task. According to the two June 25 video demonstrations, BLP wants to engineer the process to eventually utilize higher efficiency triple-junction PV cells. The upgrade should increase the conversion rate significantly more than what can currently be utilized using off the shelf technology. BLP claims the amortization rate for paying off PV cells using BLP "Sun Cell (TM)" technology would be in the neighborhood of about a month. Higher efficiency triple cell PV technology may be capable of cutting the amortization time down to just a couple of days. That certainly sounds better than financing a 15 - 20 year loan in order to attach a series of PV panels to my rooftop. The implication being inferred here is that electricity generated from BLP technology may soon be "disposable". At least, that's what Randy appears to be predicting. It goes without saying that the latest BLP demonstrations and the claims appear to be extraordinary hard-to-take at face value. Many within the Vort Collective are inherently suspicious. I can appreciate such skepticism. All we can do is wait and see what develops. Fortunately, the wait may not be long. FWIW, I'll go ahead and make a fool of myself and bet that BLP will pull the rabbit out of the hat, possibly within six months... 12 months tops. I mean: closing the loop. Keep in mind I'm only betting for bragging rights. ;-) (My current bet is subject to change without notice based on further BLP developments - or bungles.) Regards, Steven Vincent Johnson svjart.orionworks.com zazzle.com/orionworks