I think the legacy of Storms’ book, no matter if you agree with all his theorizing about the exact character of the NAE & mechanism, will be that it opened up a more serious and expansive dialogue about the importance of NAE.
The community, similar to how it followed the lead of Arata in working with nano-particles, should do what it can to embark on a focused exploration of this topic experimentally. Let them test nano-cracks, nano-whiskers, morphing magnetic topological defects, sub-nano-domains, whatever. I think there is enough evidence to suggest a surface reaction, so lets use that as the guide in future experiments. If experiments disprove it, so be it, but atleast there was a plan at play. David French mentioned at the last ICCF that the most important thing now is engineering. How do we produce enough power and control it. If NAE is the answer, then this should be the new direction the community embarks on for the next decade. On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 1:51 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: > OK, interesting. I'm glad to see you have put forward some testable > predictions. Ed's theory also puts forward some testable predictions, which > is important. I think the easiest ones should be well advertised and > investigated more thoroughly by those able in the community. Couple things > though: > > 1) Do you think your jargon and/or theory is anymore sensible sounding to > a casual reader than Ed's? > > 2) Do you have a background in science, a self-taught amateur, or > somewhere in between? I don't think it's fair to be completely anonymous > when putting forth some sort of grand unified TOE. > > 3) Is it a bad thing to treat Ed's postulates as a "guide", even if you > don't like the idea of what the hydrogen interaction entails? It could > serve similarly to Arata's emphasis on the importance of nano-particles. > That had and continues to have a lot of clout in the community -- albeit > investigations of n-p are mixed. You clearly both agree on the importance > of NAE. Why not encourage a vast field-wide exploration of different NAE -- > their benefits, drawbacks, and if they offer insight into the reaction > itself? We wouldn't even have to know exactly what's going on in the NAE -- > just how do we create it and sustain it. > > 4) I think trying to fit every system into a cold plasma quasi-particle > system paradigm is a bit of a stretch, but I appreciate the creativity > involved, so I don't discourage it. > > Regards, > John > > > On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:25 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> The cravens ball system may be one of them, What are the others? >> >> Look at the Piantelli system, He does not heat the hydrogen, but cooper >> pairing of hydrogen does occur because two protons enter into the nickel >> nucleus as witnessed by the emission of a 6 MeV proton as seen in a cloud >> chamber, >> >> Piantelli uses deuterium to stop his LENR reaction, because untreated >> deuterium is NMR active. >> >> In the Craven ball system, cooper pairing of hydrogen must occur as it >> does in Piantelli's system. To prove it as Piantelli does, I suggest >> placing the contents of Cravins ball into a cloud chamber and look for >> proton emissions.. >> >> >> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:13 PM, Foks0904 . <foks0...@gmail.com> wrote: >> >>> Axil -- What about systems that don't make use of a cold plasma that >>> generate excess heat? Are these illusory? >>> >>> >>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 12:08 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote: >>> >>>> Chemical effects to modify the spin of hydrogen is a doorway through >>>> which the LENR reaction must pass before the LENR reaction can occur. >>>> Hydrogen is NMR active, its nuclear spin is non zero. A chemical reaction >>>> must occur before hydrogen can undergo fusion. The spin of hydrogen must be >>>> reduced to 0. >>>> The transformation of hydrogen into Rydberg matter is how the spin of >>>> hydrogen is made 0. This is accomplished by the production of a hydrogen >>>> plasma and its subsequent cooling. A one dimensional crystal structure of >>>> hydrogen dust will form in which the nuclear spin of hydrogen is reduced to >>>> zero through cooper pairing. >>>> >>>> It is cooper paired hydrogen that can be a reaction component in the >>>> LENR reaction. The LENR reaction will always accompany hydrogen plasma >>>> formation either through heat or arc discharge. >>>> >>>> >>>> On Tue, Jul 22, 2014 at 11:13 AM, <torulf.gr...@bredband.net> wrote: >>>> >>>>> >>>>> I have not yet read the book. But some of the critique here seams odd. >>>>> >>>>> To exaggerate it, >>>>> The exes heat in the most researched systeme Pd\D are mainly caused by >>>>> chemical effect and errors. >>>>> If so I think there are a lesser far-reaching assumption that the >>>>> results from the lesser known Ni- P/D >>>>> systems also are caused by chemical effect and errors. Then the best >>>>> conclusion should be that >>>>> all cf phenomena are a result by chemical effect and errors. >>>>> >>>>> >>>> >>> >> >
