I know enough about your life that you need to get one.

On Fri, Aug 8, 2014 at 3:00 PM, Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com>
wrote:

> Kevin, you know nothing about my life. Even if you did your advice is the
> sand box argument. It is totally withour references so as an analtyical
> engineer you should stay away from such poorly founded arguments. If that
> is not enough to motivate your way of behaving, I will give you the
> ultimate reason to keep your opinion to yourself: if I have not figured out
> how to have life at my age I will unlikely be motivated or educated by your
> floskel.
> On Aug 7, 2014 9:30 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Get a life, Lennart
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Aug 7, 2014 at 7:18 AM, Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I know Kevin your reasoning is picked froom preschoolers. Sandbox
>>> logics. I call it and it goes like:"My dad is bigger than yours . . .".
>>>  On Aug 6, 2014 10:33 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Lennart, if you don't want an alligator to snap at you, then stop
>>>> throwing rocks at him.  Even preschoolers know the wisdom of this.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 10:27 PM, Lennart Thornros <lenn...@thornros.com
>>>> > wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Kevin, it is not worth a comment. You are just judgemental. Inhave not
>>>>> asked you to have an opinion about my capacity, still you think you can
>>>>> make judgements. Sorry, keep to the subject not to any personal vendetta. 
>>>>> I
>>>>> admit my shortcomings in science although I am from the beginning an
>>>>> engineer as well.
>>>>>  On Aug 6, 2014 9:04 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <kevmol...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Wed, Aug 6, 2014 at 11:42 AM, Lennart Thornros <
>>>>>> lenn...@thornros.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> OK. Kevin, you obviously know more about physics than about
>>>>>>> management/leadership.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***Oh Lennart, you obviously know little about either.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We had a talk about my subject not long ago.  It did not go very
>>>>>>> well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***Yes, because you are a poor manager/leader, can't put a solid
>>>>>> argument together and are basically a follower not a leader.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  I will take my chances in an area I am poorly prepared. Reason I
>>>>>>> try is because I am confused. I haave some friends who told me that 
>>>>>>> state
>>>>>>> of matter is not very accurate. Their opinion is that it is an infinite
>>>>>>> number of states.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***Once again you demonstrate your "leadership" style:  You follow a
>>>>>> crowd.  Not only that but you did not understand the original contention.
>>>>>> So you're barking up the wrong tree and you shouldn't be barking in the
>>>>>> first place.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First of all help me understand what is more accurate.
>>>>>>> If my friends are correct, then We do not need o look for any new
>>>>>>> states.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***Your friends are not correct.  You THINK we are looking for new
>>>>>> states, but in reality we are simply trying to nail down what has been
>>>>>> agreed in science.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Maybe it is worth finding out more about states of matter for
>>>>>>> reasons beyond LENR and maybe to fully undrstand LENR an understanding 
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> more hard to describe/understand states is required.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***Umm... yeah, but your statement has very little meaning.  Recall
>>>>>> my prior criticisms of you on this subject and how poorly it reflects on
>>>>>> your "leadership".
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  The whole discussion about different theories is way too adament in
>>>>>>> my opinion.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***You do not know what you are talking about, so your opinion isn't
>>>>>> worth much.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> It seems like if evry theory is having problems to be accepted by a
>>>>>>> wide group of scientists.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***What you don't seem to realize is that the whole field of LENR is
>>>>>> not accepted by a wide group of scientists.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I think a more humble aproach where taking pieces from all theories
>>>>>>> would propel the search for a solution forward much faster than the 
>>>>>>> attempt
>>>>>>> to disqualify othe theories while lifting ones own up to theology 
>>>>>>> level..
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***I didn't say that AT ALL.  I don't see how you get that from what
>>>>>> I wrote.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  What I say is that there might be many forms of LENR.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***Okay, nothing controversial here in terms of current LENR
>>>>>> observations.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They might be depending on which state of matter they are working
>>>>>>> in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***POTO.  (Pointing Out The Obvious). But not only that, you are
>>>>>> saying something DIRECTLY in agreement with my original contention but
>>>>>> acting as if you're arguing against it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So why not take the thoughts from Ed Storms, Dr. Mills, W&L, Axil,
>>>>>>> Jones, etc. and search for the common denominators instead of the reason
>>>>>>> one is better?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> ***Sounds good to me.  But how you got to the point that you somehow
>>>>>> thought I was saying something different than this is utterly baffling.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>  On Aug 5, 2014 10:38 PM, "Kevin O'Malley" <kevmol...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you look at the lower right hand diagram on that page, there are
>>>>>>>> only 4 sates of matter (traditionally):  solid, liquid, gas, and 
>>>>>>>> plasma.
>>>>>>>> Trying to shoehorn LENR theories into these 4 states so far has proven
>>>>>>>> fruitless, although plasma is a state of matter that I simply do not
>>>>>>>> understand.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Is an arc a plasma?  My readings tell me:  sometimes.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I am confident the final explanation of LENR is going to come from
>>>>>>>> one of these obstinate states of matter (or perhaps 2 of them).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Like relativity theory, it will seem obvious, simple, and yet
>>>>>>>> mind-numbingly complex all at the same time.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Tue, Aug 5, 2014 at 7:20 AM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  *From:* Kevin O'Malley
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Currently we only have 5 known states of matter:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Solid
>>>>>>>>> Liquid
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Gas
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Plasma
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Bose-Einstein Condensate
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>  It would make sense that something as unfathomable as LENR would
>>>>>>>>> occur as the newest & least understood state of matter….Especially
>>>>>>>>> when plasma might be involved, and the situation occurs in a very 
>>>>>>>>> special
>>>>>>>>> case of Condensed Matter Nuclear Physics. … Are there other
>>>>>>>>> states of matter being postulated at this point?  Some of the Zero 
>>>>>>>>> Point
>>>>>>>>> Energy/Vaccuum/Aether stuff might apply, but it does not hold weight 
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> mainstream physics.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Interesting point for LENR. One problem is that matter can be
>>>>>>>>> partly or wholly in another dimension. In fact there is some evidence 
>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>> electrons exist partly in another dimension. If we limit the 
>>>>>>>>> candidates to
>>>>>>>>> macro reality (no subatomic species like pentaquarks etc.) then here 
>>>>>>>>> are a
>>>>>>>>> few more.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dark matter – which can be the same as ZPE, Aether
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Neutron matter – the stuff of neutron stars
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> PS… after starting this list, it occurred to me that Wiki most
>>>>>>>>> likely already has such a list, and indeed it can be found here
>>>>>>>>> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_states_of_matter
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>

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