*Energy can be converted directly between angular and linear forms, but is
the same true for momentum?  I suspect not.*

What about a rail gun where magnetism is converted into linear momentum of
the projectile.




On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 12:53 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

> Perhaps so.  Can spin energy be converted into linear kinetic energy?  If
> spin is tied to angular momentum, one might expect it to be conserved
> overall.  How do we prove or disprove this?
>
> If you look at the universe from a distance you observe large amounts of
> spin(angular momentum) that does not appear to be going away by conversion
> into thermal energy(linear momentum).  Both processes appear to be
> conserved and is that true for spin among smaller units such as protons?
> Are these phenomena always orthogonal?
>
> Energy can be converted directly between angular and linear forms, but is
> the same true for momentum?  I suspect not.
>
> Dave
>
>
>
>  -----Original Message-----
> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
> Sent: Sat, Aug 9, 2014 12:34 pm
> Subject: Re: [Vo]:A good analogy for nanomagnetism
>
>  I assert that the magnetic component of matter as released by LENR is
> the source of dark energy. Dark energy is the resonance values picked up by
> josephson junction resonance effects instead of dark matter.
>
>
>  http://arxiv.org/abs/1309.3790
>
>  Could it be that the bosenova that has been seen in the DGT Ni/H reactor
> as described by professor Kim is a microcosm of the expansion of the
> universe as a result of dark energy. Could it be that the universe is
> undergoing a bosenova?
>
>
> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 12:18 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>
> wrote:
>
>> The wiki article seems to tie down the proton mass quite accurately, but
>> it may just be the accuracy of the calculation instead of actual
>> measurements.  I would be interested in seeing actual mass measurements by
>> real instruments instead of super computer calculations.  It is not too
>> hard to visualize that the measurement accuracy is questionable.  How can I
>> go about finding those results?
>>
>> Spin variations among the various components of the proton might easily
>> lead to interesting results.  If this is indeed the source of LENR energy,
>> then one might ask how it is shared among the total matter of the
>> universe.  Can it be passed between various protons freely by
>> electromagnetic interaction?  Does the normal trend exist that results in
>> kinetic energy as the preferred outcome in which case the proton mass
>> excess would want to find some way to be converted into heat ultimately?
>> How long can the excess energy be trapped inside the proton before it finds
>> it way out?
>>
>> You might want to know if the energy transfer is a two way process where
>> spin can be given or taken away by other protons, etc.  Here, our recent
>> discussions about interaction with magnetic fields might yield fruitful
>> results.  A large external magnetic field could be the process that directs
>> the energy exchange in a gainful manner as opposed to random exchange that
>> is the norm.
>>
>> Of course all of these questions and suppositions are based upon pure
>> speculation thus far.
>>
>> Dave
>>
>>
>>
>>  -----Original Message-----
>> From: Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com>
>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>>   Sent: Sat, Aug 9, 2014 12:01 pm
>> Subject: Re: [Vo]:A good analogy for nanomagnetism
>>
>>  The spin of the proton is the big puzzle in particle physics. The
>> quarks in the proton contribute less than half of the required proton spin.
>> The gluons contribute the remainder of the spin. But theory says that
>> gluons should not have spin.
>>
>> If gluons have spin then they must be magnetic and they can be effected
>> by magnetic force. But the gluons are the force carriers of the strong
>> force; the strong force is not magnetic. But the strong force must be
>> magnetic if the gluons have spin.
>>
>> Something is not right about how theory defines the strong force and it
>> will take LENR, IMHO, to solve this issue.
>>
>>
>> On Sat, Aug 9, 2014 at 11:37 AM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Jones, I want to ask you about your thougths about the variation in
>>> proton mass.  Should the variation be measurable with high sensitivity mass
>>> spectrometers?  I suppose that even a 1% variation would be more than
>>> enough to supply all of the nuclear energy that we are seeing since the
>>> energy content of the standard mass is so great.
>>>
>>> Also, are you aware of any super accurate mass measurements that have
>>> shown variation in this factor?  Perhaps the best way to begin discussion
>>> of this question is to locate the basic standard variation curves that must
>>> have been generated for lone proton measurements to see if the uncertainty
>>> has enough range to be useful.  If the standard deviation of mass
>>> uncertainty is adequate then this might be a productive concept.  In that
>>> case, LENR is merely a process that leads to the release of the stored
>>> energy and methods to enhance that process must be available.
>>>
>>> Dave
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>  -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net>
>>> To: vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com>
>>> Sent: Sat, Aug 9, 2014 11:20 am
>>> Subject: RE: [Vo]:A good analogy for nanomagnetism
>>>
>>>   The most important unsolved problem in physics is arguably
>>> proton/quark spin dynamics. The superset of this problem is
>>> underappreciated – variability of proton mass.
>>>
>>> It is a surprise to many scientists that quark mass is highly variable
>>> and apparently has been for billions of years … meaning that there could be
>>> gradual shifts over time. Quark mass cannot be accurately quantized; and
>>> because of that systemic problem in fundamental physics - proton mass is
>>> itself variable as a logical deduction. Protons, or at least a fraction on
>>> the distribution tail of any population, can therefore supply a great deal
>>> of energy without the need to fuse or undergo any change in identity. Quark
>>> spin and proton spin are, in one viewpoint, independent of each other, but
>>> they must be linked (as a logical deduction) which is another form of
>>> wave-particle duality. This is part of the larger so-called “proton spin
>>> crisis”.
>>>
>>> There are dozens if not hundreds of papers and scholarly articles trying
>>> to rationalize problems with the standard model of physics, based on quark
>>> mass variation going all the way back to Big Bang nucleosynthesis. Quark
>>> mass variation is a fact, and quark spin is a major feature of that mass.
>>>
>>> This is why any new model for LENR – based on mass depletion of
>>> reactants (mass-to-energy conversion) via spin coupling is on much firmer
>>> theoretical ground than a silly attempt to invent a way to completely hide
>>> gamma rays. Gamma rays are known to always be emitted when deuterium fuses
>>> to helium. It is almost brain-dead to suggest that they can be hidden with
>>> 100% success in any experiment where they should be seen.
>>>
>>> It is an embarrassment to the field of LENR when a scientist of the
>>> caliber of Ed Storms, goes on record as saying that nanomagnetism is “a
>>> distraction”. Distraction to what? one must ask: is it a distraction to
>>> promotion of a book, or a distraction to an erroneous suggestion that
>>> helium is found commensurate with excess heat in LENR? Or a distraction to
>>> the bogus idea that gamma rays can be hidden 100% of the time?
>>>
>>> That is the kind of distraction which is poised to become the new norm.
>>> ­­­­­­­­­­­­­­____________________________________
>>>
>>>
>>>  Thanks Peter and Bob. Here are a couple of additional thoughts on an
>>> emerging nanomagnetism hypothesis.
>>>
>>> Nanomagnetism can be operational parallel to other processes in any
>>> experiment, even a novel form of “fusion” if that exists. Nanomagnetism can
>>> be part of a dynamical Casimir effect as well. However, the thermal gain of
>>> nanomagnetism results from a direct conversion of mass-to-energy, where the
>>> mass lost is in the form of nuclear spin – possibly quark spin. There is no
>>> transmutation and no nuclear radiation.
>>>
>>> It is likely that there are two (or three) distinct temperature regimes
>>> for Ni-H. Nanomagnetism is involved most strongly in the lower regime which
>>> is seen in the Cravens demo. In this regime the Neel temperature is
>>> critical. We can note that Cravens adds samarium-cobalt to his active mix.
>>> This material is permanently magnetized.
>>>
>>> In a higher temperature version of nanomagnetism, the Curie point is
>>> critical. This would explain the noticeable threshold mentioned in several
>>> papers around 350 C.
>>>
>>> In the highest temperature regime (HotCat) permanent magnetism is not
>>> possible as an inherent feature, and an external field must be implemented.
>>> Thus, resistance wiring itself can be supplying the needed magnetic field
>>> alignment in the HotCat. Only a few hundred Gauss is required and it can be
>>> intermittent. At the core of the hot version, and possibly all versions, is
>>> a new kind of HTSC or high-temperature superconductivity which is local and
>>> happens only in quantum particles (quantum dots, or excitons). This form of
>>> “local HTSC” seen at the nanoscale only, is entering the mainstream as we
>>> speak, see: “Physicists unlock nature of high-temperature superconductivity”
>>>
>>> http://phys.org/news/2014-07-physicists-nature-high-temperature-superconductivity.html
>>>
>>> Summary: Magnetism is highly directional. "Knowing the directional
>>> dependence … we were able, for the first time, to quantitatively predict
>>> the material's superconducting properties using a series of mathematical
>>> equations… calculations showed that the gap possesses d-wave symmetry,
>>> implying that for certain directions the electrons were bound together very
>>> strongly, while they were not bound at all for other directions,"
>>>
>>> This in effect is the spin-flip seen in the transition from 
>>> superparamagnetism
>>> to superferromagnetism working in a repeating cycle with intermediate
>>> stages which are antiferromagnetic or ferrimagnetic around the Neel
>>> temperature, in one version - so in effect what we have in nanomagnetism is
>>> a “heat driven electrical transformer” where the heat is self-generated.
>>> __________________________________
>>>
>>>   In automotive engineering, there are several idealized energy transfer
>>> cycles which involve four clearly segmented stages of engine operation.
>>> For
>>> instance, the Otto cycle consists of:
>>>
>>> 1)      Intake, Compression, Expansion, Exhaust which are further
>>> arranged as
>>> 2)      Two isentropic processes - adiabatic and reversible and
>>> 3)      Two isochoric processes - constant volume
>>> 4)      As an "idealized" cycle, this never happens completely in
>>> practice,
>>> but it permits substantial gain in a ratchet-like way and substantial
>>> understanding of the process.
>>> 5)      There are many other idealized cycles for combustion, such as the
>>> Stirling which is probably closer, as an analogy, to nanomagnetism
>>>
>>> In nanomagnetism, there is a corresponding strong metaphor involving a
>>> similar kind of 4 legged hysteresis curve, where we find
>>>
>>> 1)      Antiferromagnetism, superparamagnetism, ferrimagnetism and
>>> superferromagnetism working in a repeating cycle
>>> 2)      The remainder of the analogy is under development but there are
>>> two
>>> reversible processes involving field alignment, requiring two operative
>>> classes of reactants - one mobile and one stationary
>>> 3)      Nanomagnetism requires a ferromagnetic nucleus which is nominally
>>> stationary. (yes, palladium and titanium alloy can be ferromagnetic)
>>> 4)      Nanomagnetism requires a mobile medium, loaded or absorbed into
>>> the
>>> ferromagnet which has variable magnetic properties.
>>> 5)      Hydrogen and its isotopes appears to be the exclusive mobile
>>> medium,
>>> which can oscillate between diamagnetic (as a molecule) and strongly
>>> paramagnetic (as an absorbed atom)
>>> 6)      Spin coupling provides the transfer of energy from the
>>> ferromagnetic
>>> nucleus to the mobile nucleus in a method similar to induction.
>>> 7)      Inverse square permits very strong effective fields for transfer
>>> of
>>> spin energy from nickel-62, for instance.
>>> 8)      Nanomagnetism seems to boosted by the presence of an oxide  of
>>> the
>>> ferromagnet - i.e. nickel with a small percentage of nickel oxide but the
>>> oxide is not required.
>>>
>>> This is an emerging hypothesis, the details of which are fluid, but...
>>> shall
>>> we say... "attractive" :-)
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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