moreover the various methods gave different result, suggesting that surface
is very different from deeper.

it is expected as it happen the same for others LENr experiments ...
there are very complex transmutation in the craters of LENR electrodes

2014-10-09 9:20 GMT+02:00 Stefan Israelsson Tampe <stefan.ita...@gmail.com>:

> I thought I read that the analysis was for the surface of the grain. Also
> the result differes
> from grain to grain, it would have been nice to see some ranges of the
> values found in the surface. I got the feeling that the presented sample
> was chooses just to make a statement of how different the composition in
> the ash is compared to the fuel a t the beginnning.
>
> On Thu, Oct 9, 2014 at 7:00 AM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I think the use of cycles will help to explain this phenomena.
>>
>> Harry
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 8, 2014 at 8:06 PM, Robert Ellefson <vortex-h...@e2ke.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Er,
>>>
>>> s/Ni68/Ni62/g
>>>
>>> :-)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> > -----Original Message-----
>>> > From: Robert Ellefson [mailto:vortex-h...@e2ke.com]
>>> > Sent: Wednesday, October 08, 2014 5:02 PM
>>> > To: vortex-l@eskimo.com
>>> > Subject: [Vo]:Intermediate products of isotope shifting reaction
>>> appear to
>>> be
>>> > absent
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > One observation that I'm noting in reviewing the data is the remarkably
>>> > complete conversion of nickel isotopes to Ni68, (from 3.9% in the
>>> starting
>>> > fuel to 98.7% in the ash) and the corresponding nearly-complete
>>> transition
>>> > of lithium-6 from 8.6% fuel to 92.1% ash abundance ratios.  Given that
>>> the
>>> > ash sample was taken at an arbitrarily-defined time point, which
>>> happened
>>> > while the operating conditions of the reaction were stable, if not
>>> > improving, then I believe this indicates that the reaction is a cyclic
>>> one,
>>> > which decays to the measured ash isotope ratios while the reaction is
>>> > stopping.
>>> >
>>> > If the reaction were based on a linear consumption of reactants, then
>>> it
>>> > would be truly miraculous to have stopped the reaction and sampled the
>>> ash
>>> > just when Nickel-68 had reached 98.7 enrichment.  Given that there was
>>> no
>>> > trending reduction in the output power prior to the ash sampling, I
>>> think
>>> > this clearly indicates that we were not approaching the depletion
>>> point of
>>> > the reactants, and that the heat must be produced as part of a durable
>>> > cycle.   This could indicate a much, much longer-lasting fuel charge is
>>> > possible than the 6 months figure which has been floating around
>>> without
>>> > apparent basis-in-fact.
>>> >
>>> > -Bob Ellefson
>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>

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