Axil -- I don't think it's fair to keep pointing at Storms as the only one
who discounts transmutation as the mechanism -- he's only
the most vocal. There are many non-vocal, well-qualified people in the
community who don't believe it either. It's the main reason so many people
reject Widom-Larsen theory. So what if transmutation shows up in cold
fusion systems? Interesting for sure, but it doesn't mean anything unless
you can match/calculate intermediate/final products with excess heat, have
completely controlled for contamination of multiple runs, and account for
He-4 ash in PdD. You're just rehashing old Miley data that is interesting
but does not prove anything (even though it could be significant once we
find out more). Same goes for the most recent Nickel/Lithium sample taken
from the E-Cat. Interesting, but doesn't tell us as much as we think it
does without A) more replications, and/or B) a much bigger sample analysis
with more discerning mass spec.

*This transmutation theory developed by Miley and Hora leads me to the
conclusion that in TIP3, there has been many transmutation results that
were not found even if they were in fact occurring. In order to do good
transmutation accounting, the testers must do detailed and perfect
bookkeeping of what elements went into the reaction and account for ALL
elements and isotopes that come out of the LENR reaction.*

I agree, it's "possible", so let's keep encouraging better analysis and see
where the chips fall.

John

On Fri, Oct 10, 2014 at 2:22 PM, Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> wrote:

> Regarding transmutation,
>
>
>
> Even if Ed Storms discounts transmutation as an LENR energy production
> mechanism, transmutation is the source of energy in LENR  that has showed
> up in experimental data since 2010 involving some generalized isotopic and
> elemental changes encompassing some 40 or 50 elements in the light and
> medium Z range  since the Ni/H reactor data has been made available.
>
>
>
> This way of looking at past experimental transmutation data, there is
> nothing special about helium, lithium or nickel as the singular source of
> LENR energy. These elements are just one of a zoo of many possible
> transmutation reactions based on the particular geometry of the reaction
> process.
>
>
>
> Dr. G. Miley and his associate Dr Hora have come up with a theoretical
> framework for transmutation that is based on the three quark nature of the
> proton and neutron. This theory predicts that the transmuted elements that
> we see in LENR will tend to follow the magic and double magic proton and
> neutron count.
>
>
>
> From Miley, we would expect to see magic number elements form as a result
> of nuclear rearrangement when the coulomb barrier is disrupted because they
> are the most stable nuclei configurations among the elements.
>
>
>
> Z = 2(He), 8(O), 20(Ca), 28(Ni), 50(Sn), 82(Pb),
>
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>
> See
>
>  *http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(physics)
> <http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Magic_number_(physics)>*
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>
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> In explanation, the nucleus seems to have seven magic numbers. An atom
> with a magic number of protons or neutrons is super stable.
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> When both the protons and neutrons are magic, that's a double magic atom.
> There are only seven of them.
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>
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> The seven magic numbers are 2, 8, 20, 28, 50, 82, and 126. (and maybe 184)
> They are the number of nucleons - which can be either protons or neutrons -
> you need to fill up the shells found in the atomic nucleus. The completely
> filled shells cause the atomic nucleus to be more tightly bound together
> than simple calculations would predict, meaning the magic atoms are
> unusually stable.
>
>
>
>
>
> So, if both the neutrons and protons happen to be magic numbers, the atom
> is not only extra stable, but its nucleus is also rigidly symmetrical,
> which is very unusual and helps observers confirm the doubly magic
> properties of the atom.
>
>
>
>
>
> These isotopes - which include helium-4 (2 protons and 2 neutrons, and one
> of the most abundant isotopes in the universe), lead-208 (82 protons and
> 126 neutrons, and the heaviest stable atom), and the pair of calcium-48 and
> nickel-48 (the former has 20 protons and 28 neutrons, while the latter is
> vice versa). The latest to be discovered is tin-132, which has 50 protons
> and 82 neutrons.
>
>
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>
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> These protons and neutrons form proton and neutron lattice layers as
> follows
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> The magic numbers are then
>
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>
> •             2
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> •             8=2+6
>
> •            20=2+6+12
>
> •            28=2+6+12+8
>
> •            50=2+6+12+8+22
>
> •            82=2+6+12+8+22+32
>
> •           126=2+6+12+8+22+32+44
>
> •           184=2+6+12+8+22+32+44+58
>
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>
> Miley and Hora identified that nuclei undergoing a LENR reaction want to
> stabilize at the highly stable double magic number configuration.
>
>
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>
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> This is because neutrons want to be paired with protons to form a
> symmetrical nucleus with perfectly shaped lattice based shells.
>
> .
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>
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> Elements with lots of unpaired neutrons like Th232 and U238 would make for
> great LENR metals. These metals would stabilize at lead 208.
>
>
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>
>
> Some nuclides are double-magic, in that the number of protons and neutrons
> are both magic, such as helium-4, oxygen-16, calcium-40, calcium-48,
> nickel-48, and lead-208. These isotopes are particularly stable and this is
> where LENR wants to go.
>
>
>
>
>
> Hora who is Miley’s collaborator, makes a convincing case that the nucleus
> conforms to a R (n) (n = 1, 2, 3…) of the Boltzmann probabilities, namely R
> (n) = 3 to the nth power. This suggests a threefold property of stable
> configurations at magic numbers in Nuclei, consistent with a quark property.
>
>
>
> Now, we can use this nuclear engineering background to predict what the
> LENR ash content will look like when the nucleus is broken down into a
> quark soup.
>
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>
>
> In LENR two concurrent processes are occurring simultaneously: fusion and
> fission.
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>
>
> Fusion occurs when more than one nucleus is affected in the zone of the
> reaction.
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>
>
> The relative strength of these two reactions will reflect the amount of
> screening that the reactor can produce.
>
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>
>
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> Elements built up by the fusion process will be subsequently disassembled
> by a fission process.
>
>
>
>
>
> But the chances are good that you can expect to see proton magic number
> elements like helium, calcium, oxygen, nickel, tin and lead appear in the
> LENR ash because they are proton magic number elements.
>
>
>
>
>
> Also, you can expect to see Neutron magic number isotopes favored in LENR.
>
>
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>
>
> Furthermore thing get more complicated, it is a well-known fact that the
> lowering of the coulomb barrier in the nucleus can increase the radiation
> levels of alpha emitters.
>
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> When screening intensity is increased, it is reasonable to expect that
> other light elements besides Helium(Z=2) will be expelled(aka fission) from
> the nucleus.
>
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>
>
> These are Lithium(Z=3) , Beryllium(Z=4), and Boron(Z=5).
>
>
>
>
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> Also intermediate elements will form that result from the emissions of
> these light elements like iron, chromium vanadium, titanium, and scandium.
>
>
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> Sulfur(Z=16) will form from the beryllium(Z=4) emission from calcium(Z=20).
>
>
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>
> The large amount of iron found in the ash products of the Ni/H reaction
> point to alpha decay of nickel.
>
>
>
> This transmutation theory developed by Miley and Hora leads me to the
> conclusion that in TIP3, there has been many transmutation results that
> were not found even if they were in fact occurring. In order to do good
> transmutation accounting, the testers must do detailed and perfect
> bookkeeping of what elements went into the reaction and account for ALL
> elements and isotopes that come out of the LENR reaction.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

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