Harry--

I just read an item yesterday in "Infinite Energy" Sept 2014 issue  that the 
Earth is expanding with a  delta r of about 22 mm per year.  The explanations 
did not include the idea that the expansion was due to increasing internal 
temperatures and the thermal expansion associated with the higher temperatures. 
  There were several other explanations provided.  

In general it is not well established what the source(s) of the internal heat 
in the Earth is/are.  They may be increasing as part of a harmonic or random  
characteristic of the energy production.  It would be nice to get some good 
data on the differential temperatures at various distances from the center deep 
within the crust to get a good handle on the total heat transfer through the 
surface.  I have never seen a correlation of total heat changes with volume 
changes for the Earth.  Such a calculation may exist however.    To get a good 
idea of the overall heat flux would take good statistics with many data points 
given the known crustal thickness variations and the variable hot spots below 
the crust and within it confines. 

Bob
  ----- Original Message ----- 
  From: H Veeder 
  To: vortex-l@eskimo.com 
  Sent: Thursday, October 16, 2014 8:58 PM
  Subject: Re: [Vo]:Greenhouse HotCat


  Dave, for some reason when you start a new thread your message appears in my 
spam folder.  




  I am not sure what you are asking, but the Earth supposedly generates some 
heat too. I am not sure how much of this heat contributes to the global 
temperature.


  Harry  






  On Thu, Oct 16, 2014 at 1:00 PM, David Roberson <dlrober...@aol.com> wrote:

    A thought occurred to me this morning concerning the temperature 
measurements and output power calculations from the latest HotCat testing.  
What if the same general type of effect is working in the CAT test that is 
revealed by the Earth and the greenhouse gas process?

    We assume that the Earth is pretty much in equilibrium where the power 
arriving from the sun is matching the power being radiated from our planet.  
The reason that we are not frozen at this time is because the radiation 
spectrum is modified by the greenhouse gases in the atmosphere which make our 
temperature a lot warmer than would be expected for a black body in open space.

    Perhaps something can be learned from this comparison and that is why I 
open it to discussion amount this group of knowlegible and diverse folks.

    One might initially ask if the calibration technique used during the 
testing of the HotCat would correct for the potential problems.  Why would a 
calibration of the heat emitted within the IR region not hold to a reasonable 
degree at higher temperatures?  Could the change in the shape of the spectrum 
result in a large error?

    Have mercy on the messenger.

    Dave


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