Other examples of light emitting bodies which do not follow the
incandascent temperature rule are phosphorescent and fluorescent bodies.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Phosphorescence

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fluorescence


Harry



On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 7:27 PM, H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:

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> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 5:49 PM, Jed Rothwell <jedrothw...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
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>> H Veeder <hveeder...@gmail.com> wrote:
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>>> Consider the difference between the sun at noon and the sun at
>>> dawn/dusk. The interior of the HotCat glows white but from the outside it
>>> glows red like a sunrise because it is shinning through an atmosphere of
>>> alumina.
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>> It does not work that way. If the outside surface temperature really is
>> 1400 deg C, then the outside surface material should be incandescent white.
>> It does not matter what the inside temperature is. All materials glow with
>> the same incandescent color at a given temperature. That is what the
>> textbooks claim.
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>> I doubt any light is shining through the alumina, but even if it is, the
>> light from incandescence of the outside alumina material itself should be
>> white.
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>> - Jed
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> ​This is true for an incandescent body, but remember the reactor may not
> be an incandescent body. An incandescent body passively heats itself by
> receiving energy from an external energy source. e.g. clay pot in a hot
> kiln or a resistor with current flowing throw it.  On the other hand the
> Sun actively heats itself, but if it is identified as a white incandescent
> body then its surface temperature will be underestimated by 4600C (6000C -
> 1400C). Similarly, if the HotCat actively heats itself but it is identified
> with a red incandescent body then its surface temperature will be
> underestimated.
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> The Stephan-Blotzman law is valuable because it is agnostic on the issue
> of how a body comes to have a surface temperature. It is not a relationship
> between input power and output power. It is a relationship between the
> surface temperature and output power.
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> Attaching the label "Incandescent" to a body comes with an assumption
> about the underlying dynamics which bring about a body's temperature. The
> presumption of incandescence has probably been true of most investigations
> of LENR/CF heat anomalies but this new report shows it is an inaccurate
> assumption.
>
> Harry
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