My interest in the EMF characterization of the Ecat is a theoretical one, not a safety issue (unless the EMF issues involves huge and disruptive anomalies)
On Mon, Oct 20, 2014 at 11:37 AM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > Axil-- > > Regarding you concern about the Hot Cat EMF, Rossi in August noted the > following: > > >>>>The external surface of the Hot-Cat is electrically insulated, for > obvious safety reasons. > Currents are out of the reaction but inside the Hot Cat. > If you touch any external part of the Hot Cat you do not feel any current > nor measure any electromagnetic emission. > Warm Regards > A.R. >>>>>>>>> > > Bob > > > ----- Original Message ----- > *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> > *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> > *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 4:04 PM > *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature > > There are types of magnetic EMF that cannot be shielded. Furthermore, if > large amounts of electrons are being produced as a reaction > byproduct, their chaotic interaction with the directly connected sensors > and connectors may not be predictable over time. > > There may be an agreement in place between Rossi and the testers to keep > this EMF based behavior of the Rossi reactor confidential to protect > Industrial Heat's intellectual property claims. > > On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:52 PM, Bob Cook <frobertc...@hotmail.com> wrote: > >> Axil-- >> >> From my experience, I would doubt that is a major concern for these >> simple thermocouples. It there were a 50,000 watt antenna near by you >> might get a pick up which could be detected in the voltage output of the >> thermocouple. However, the external leads of a T/C are generally in a >> metal sheath and insulated from each other by a potting compound or other >> insulating material. The sheath would tend to shield the leads from RF >> (RG?) radiation. >> >> Axil, I think your concern is unfounded. >> >> Bob >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> *From:* Axil Axil <janap...@gmail.com> >> *To:* vortex-l <vortex-l@eskimo.com> >> *Sent:* Sunday, October 19, 2014 3:33 PM >> *Subject:* Re: [Vo]:Color Temperature >> >> Any directly connected sensor may be unreliable and erratic because of >> the production of intense RG radiation especially in a reactor without RF >> shielding. >> >> The only way to get good temperature data is through remote sensing, >> >> On Sun, Oct 19, 2014 at 6:24 PM, Jones Beene <jone...@pacbell.net> wrote: >> >>> *From:* Jed Rothwell >>> >>> >>> >>> The discussion of color and temperature only mask the glaring reality >>> that >>> an inexpensive way to be certain of thermal gain in the TP2 device is >>> flow >>> calorimetry. >>> >>> >>> >>> I think flow calorimetry with this device at these temperatures would be >>> problematic. For one thing, you could not see the device, which might even >>> be dangerous. I think the present method is better, although it may not >>> have been done right. It should be confirmed with the internal >>> thermocouples. >>> >>> >>> >>> Well, catch-22 they used an internal thermocouple - and apparently took >>> data from a perfect location, which could “see” down the axis of the tube, >>> presumably the hottest place in the system, but chose not to release the >>> data. >>> >>> >>> >>> What excuse can they have - other than the thermocouple data does not >>> support the thermography (therefore the thermocouple failed)? >>> >>> >>> >>> Ahern proposed a calorimeter which would not compromise the integrity of >>> the ceramic tube. >>> >>> >>> >>> Jones >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >