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| Data: | Tue, 19 Oct 2004 12:02:59 -0300 |
| Assunto: | [VotoEletronico] Re: Votes are anonymous records and thus they are unverifiable |
> Olá,
>
> Discordo desse texto.
>
> Acredito que seja possível alcançar pelo menos o mesmo nível de
> segurança de uma votação manual utilizando-se de meios eletrônicos.
>
> O ponto chave, como todos devem concordar na lista, é a impressão do
> voto para que o próprio eleitor possa conferir seu voto.
>
> Junte a isso diversos processos e tecnologias de segurança e auditoria
> e teremos uma eleição tão segura quanto a manual.
>
> Obrigado.
>
> On Tue, 19 Oct 2004 07:33:42 -0200, Amilcar Brunazo Filho
> <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>wrote:
> > Votes are anonymous records and thus they are unverifiable
> >
> > I think that voting is one of the (few) fields of human activities
> > not suited to be handled by computers. The basis of this statement is
> > not technical but theoretical: anonymous data cannot be verified to
> > be correct (the term anonymous is relative to the object of the
> > information, not to its source as it happens in "anonymous letters").
> >
> > Being anonymous, data has no references to external entities we could
> > check with, thus we can decide to trust anonymous data or not to
> > trust it, but for sure we are not able to verify it.
> >
> > Just as an example let's suppose to have some data telling that a
> > certain person is 20 years old. Obviuosly we could check such info
> > only if we had a reference to the person, but if data were anonymous
> > we could'nt check it (since we wouldn't know who is he/she).
> >
> > In whichever way we migth record votes, they will always be anonymous
> > records and thus we'll never be able to verify each vote is actually
> > the same as expressed by the elector (since we don't know who is
> > he/she).
> >
> > As an obviuos consequence, the final electoral results (being based on
> > electoral records) are unverifiable, too!
> >
> > We can verify the number of anonymous objects, but we cannot verify
> > the correctness of anonymous records: believe it or not, we can
> > verify votes, but not vote records!
> >
> > In traditional elections we keep and count the vote itself (the
> > ballot paper). That's why traditional election's result are
> > verifiable!
> >
> > In electronic elections we store and count record of the vote (which
> > vote is actually the pressing of a push button or the touching of a
> > certain screen area). That's why electronic election's are not
> > possible to be verified and we must passively accept any result!
> >
> > If you feel the above ideas are not completely stupid please have a
> > look to my site "electronic vote & democracy"
> >
> > http://www.electronic-vote.org
> >
> > I'll be very glad to have any feedback from you.
> >
> > Thank you very much from Italy,
> > Emanuele Lombardi
> >
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