In a message of 27-Jul-99 Chris Wiles wrote:

 >> Do you know if Olli wants JSERROR.LOG to learn of sites that don't work?

 > Yes! But, send them to me instead.
 > Email: [EMAIL PROTECTED] and I'll collate them etc.

Ok.

 >> "And don't expect most of the older bugs/quarks to be fixed yet.  For one,
 >> Tables are still messed up, something I would have considered a higher
 >> priority over shockwave.  I think I'll wait for IB2 (or Voyager 4.85)."

 > He'll get a shock with IB 2's tables then :)

:)))

 > V's tables are 'messed up'? Where?

I don't know what sites he refer to, but I can at least remember this
site:

  http://www.cdparadise.com

I am pretty sure it isn't supposed to look like V� (and VNG as well)
displays it.  I know - it is probably bad HTML, but as we all know:  if it
is okay in MSIE and NS, then nobody would consider correcting the HTML
code.

 >> Nope, people compare V� with Netscape and MSIE.

 > This is crazy then. Why?

I think mainly because NS and MSIE is what they use at school and at
work, and it is also what their friends use.

 > a) we don't have them on our platform to compare to.

 > b) we don't have the programming talent to compete. Anyway, NS's tables are
 > slower and more 'messed up' than V's, so it's not a good comparison ;)

I have never liked neither NS or MSIE, but you have to admit, that they
have both every new feature almost available from the start, whereas we
Amigans will have to wait a year or more - and that is if we will get it at
all. I guess that is the lot of the Amigan's, so it is our own choice.

But I still think people will have an tendency to compare V and the other
Amiga browsers with NS/MSIE because both NS and MSIE is very widely used.


 >> I just wish people also remember to give Olli a bit of praise for his
 >> works. I don't think it will be much fun for Olli to receive hundreds of
 >> complaints and no praise :)

 > You can't please the Amiga public, seriously. Their expectations are
 > incredible, for such a tiny market and where the vast majority /don't/ buy
 > software (ie. most top selling software will sell 2000 copies, max. Sigh).

It is a bit sad. We have got this incredible computer, but we don't
even ourselves support it by supporting our developers.

Not that people don't want to use the software, but they rather find
a cracked or pirated version. Steve Koren, my favourite newsreader
programmer, would love to code full time for the Amiga, but especially
after an earlier version of NewsRog was pirated, sales have dropped and
Steve naturally can't live on he meagre NewsRog income so he has to find
day job and spend less time coding. The only ones we are harming  by
pirating software is ourselves. Stupid.


Uffe Holst

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