Dear WAMUG,

Okay here goes, I'm offended by this reactionary email.

The message was maybe a bit skimpy, but amazingly enough, many people who
had G4s to sell, seem to find it in there intelligence to email my friend
and offer their machines to him (who is also a computer professional)
without the benefit of further information.

The reason the email was brief is because, hey its only a G4, its not like
you need a degree to understand the different models, he wants a G4 - get
it? If you want to get rid of a monitor as well, offer it as well, if not
don't - the G4 is the important bit.

Buy the way he was offered a 733 Quicksilver for a very good price - thanks
Luke.

Now, to you Onno, let me tell you and the group a story, a computer
professional I know (FYI, I'm a computer professional too and have been
devoted to the mac community since '92) once posted a question to WAMUG,
asking a question on how to get pages to force reload in IE - somebody
posted the reply "use netscape" since my friend is a web developer, and was
checking his pages in all the browsers he could find both pc and mac - he
was less than impressed, he forwarded the email on to me, as I was the one
that had introduced him to WAMUG with the subject "F*ckwit of the week", and
promptly unsubscribed.

This is how I feel right now.

Thanks for your time </rant>

Paul

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Paul Sherriffs
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> From: Onno Benschop <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> Date: Mon, 04 Feb 2002 08:24:18 +0800
> To: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
> Subject: Posting to WAMUG - Was: [G4 wanted]
> 
> At 23:57 1/02/02 +0800, a subscriber wrote:
>> A very good friend of mine is after a G4.
> 
> And you are telling us this because?
> 
> Sigh, I'm estimating my response will result in a flurry of messages, many
> of which will add some irrelevant comment, some will display anger, a few
> personal replies saying "Good on-ya Onno", most will include a one
> word/line/paragraph response at the top of the message while quoting the
> whole message below, not many responses to my message will actually be
> adding to the substance or discussion.
> 
> So here goes:
> 
> It is *my opinion* that the WAMUG list is slowly but surely degenerating
> into a growing group of subscribers who expect to get free advice from an
> ever decreasing group of experts.
> 
> I subscribe to WAMUG because I've used Macintoshes since 1985, am a
> computer professional and believe that educating users will result in a
> better computing experience for all. Educated users attempt to solve their
> own problems first, then attempt to search for resolutions offered by
> others and finally when faced with a problem that is not resolvable by
> themselves, ask some available expert.
> 
> It is much easier to ask an expert first, but soon you run out of experts
> willing to assist.
> 
> The concept - that advice supplied by the members of the list is free of
> charge and required - is absolutely absurd.
> 
> Just because the person responding to your question didn't send you an
> invoice, doesn't mean it didn't cost anything. The time and effort involved
> in responding to user queries is born by the respondent as an investment. I
> invest in the computing community by assisting subscribers to WAMUG. If a
> growing group of subscribers expects free advice for all manner of -
> admittedly in my opinion - silly questions, then those users with a genuine
> need for assistance will miss out.
> 
> You may well suggest that I unsubscribe from WAMUG and stop worrying about
> your little tantrums - many professional subscribers have - but I think
> that other needful subscribers will loose the benefit of my experience.
> 
> Self-regulation only works if each of the members actually self-regulate.
> 
> How could the original question, one of many mind you, just the one to bear
> the brunt of this response, actually have been a message worthy of the
> list's attention?
> 
> Well *for example*:
> 
> A good friend of mine is after a G4.
> They have looked at the various models and
> cannot decide which model to go for. As a
> result I would like some advice about what
> things are important. What kind of questions
> should I ask my friend to assist them in their
> purchasing decision?
> 
> Please note that I am giving the poster the benefit of doubt here, since
> the message could well have read in either of these two ways:
> 
> A good friend of mine is after a G4.
> They would like a really good deal from
> someone who is willing to part with
> their G4. I'm expecting they could have it
> for $100 complete with an LCD monitor,
> installed, with lifetime 24 hour on-site
> support free of charge.
> 
> Or:
> 
> A good friend of mine is after a G4.
> If you are a retailer of Apple products
> please email them, since I cannot be
> bothered to do a quick search through
> the archive to find the commercial posts
> with the addresses of you all.
> 
> In conclusion:
> 
> By sending every question that pops into your head to the list, more and
> more of the time and effort involved in responding to those messages will
> result in less people willing to do so.
> 
> Thank you for your time,
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