Hi Ronni

Haven't actually deleted the old one yet until I have time to check thoroughly - but new library is working just fine.

It's actually on a firewire drive (not the same one as the backup) so not in home > pictures. This has been the case for ages without a hitch so I'm thinking this wasn't a cause of the problems. Or was it??

thanks again
alastair



On 24 Sep 2009, at 01:02, Ronda Brown wrote:


You're welcome Alastair,

Good to hear you have iPhoto working correctly again.

Did you do the rest of my suggestion?

Once you are satisfied the new iPhoto Library is functioning correctly delete the old iPhoto Library and MAKE A BACKUP of the New iPhoto Library.
But, don't delete it until you are sure.

Check in your Home > Pictures - that there is only ONE iPhoto Library and that it is the NEW correctly functioning iPhoto Library.

If it is: Delete the backup of iPhoto Library that is on your External backup Drive (remember to empty the trash before disconnecting the drive so it is properly deleted from the drive). Then connect the drive again to your computer and backup the complete iPhoto Library Folder in your Home > Pictures to your external Backup Drive.

Remember: You are only as good as your last backup!
Regular backups are a MUST ....

I will post to WAMUG list ... when I find a little time ;-) "My Backup Strategy" which involves having daily "Archive" & weekly "Bootable" backups.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard



On 24/09/2009, at 12:38 AM, mince and pud wrote:


Ronni

You've done it again - correct in every particular, dragging the rolls over works like a charm

many many thanks
alastair



On 23 Sep 2009, at 05:49, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Alastair,

Hmm .... Ok ...
1. The New iPhoto Library you have created is working correctly?
2. But, you now need to get your "Original Photos" from the "Back Up Library"?

If this is correct.
3. Go into the "Back Up" iPhoto Library and find the "Originals" Folder. From the Originals folder drag the individual Roll Folders to the NEW iPhoto Window and it will create them in the new Library.

4. Quit iPhoto
5. Relaunch iPhoto and let us know if everything is OK.

If you had made changes to photos in the old "backup Library", you might then be able to bring the "Modified" folder across.

Once you are satisfied the new iPhoto Library is functioning correctly delete the old iPhoto Library and MAKE A BACKUP of the New iPhoto Library.
But, don't delete it until you are sure.
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Don't change anything in the iPhoto Library Folder via the Finder or any other application. iPhoto depends on the structure as well as the contents of this folder. Moving things, renaming things or otherwise making changes will prevent iPhoto from working and could even cause you to damage or lose your photos.

Put it this way. Go to your Pictures Folder. If it's in the iPhoto Library Folder leave it alone.
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Cheers,
Ronni


On 23/09/2009, at 11:40 AM, mince and pud wrote:


Hi Ronni

Hm the iphoto outlook is about as sunny as the weather in the hills this morning. I have at least learned a few things...

I deleted the preference file which gave me a brand new library. Imported some pics and watched a finder window while it did its stuff - sure enough a folder called 2001 is created within Imports and all the files go into it. But when it has finished, Imports folder disappears and the images move to Data > 2009 > Roll 1 which is as it should be. This is the bit my library has forgotten how to do.

Unfortunately when I pointed iphoto at the backup library it has the same problem. I had imported these last few rolls without opening any images and as the thumbnails were fine - at first - didn't know anything was amiss until the thumbs subsequently vanished.

2 different cameras used so it's not the memory card

I have not been rummaging around in the library. I know that There be Dragons...


So I suppose the question is - is there a painless way of dragging the pictures in the old, corrupt library into the shiny new, working one, bearing in mind the dangers of rummaging?

Your thoughts welcome
best
alastair




On 22 Sep 2009, at 14:10, Ronda Brown wrote:


Hi Alastair,

Rebuilding the iPhoto Database didn't work. It's looking like the library database, Library6.iPhoto could be corrupted, or a file is.

Have you tried deleting the "com.apple.iPhoto.plist" file,or moving it to your desktop ? Quit iPhoto before you do, then locate it in Home > Library > Preferences - com.apple.iPhoto.plist & drag it to your desktop or trash (but don't empty the trash yet).
Then restart your computer
Then relaunch iPhoto

1. The backup iPhoto Library you say you have, was that working correctly? You might have to revert back to this backup. 2. Is it only since you have tried to import these new rolls into iPhoto that things have gone wrong?
3. Are you importing from the same camera?
4. You haven't touched anything in the iPhoto Library folder in Finder have you?

I'm thinking you might have to go back to your iPhoto Library backup, if it was working without any problems.

iPhoto 6 I remember was a flaky version of iPhoto, it has improved with each version since.

Cheers,
Ronni


On 22/09/2009, at 6:57 PM, mince and pud wrote:


Hi again Ronni

Thanks for suggestion - but after another rebuild all is as before except that I now have FOUR identical copies of my last roll, all of which produce the file when clicked.

(pause)

I imported another, different roll, to see if the import system was working now. It imported fine and all worked, but the files were in a new subfolder of Imports.

Quit and relaunch - again asked to import unimported photos (I said yes but then don't import duplicates) - the newest roll is still there but no files linked to thumbs. Of the four identical rolls, one is now blank, one is blank except for two thumbs (huh?) and two are still complete, but no longer linked to anything.

Weirder and weirder

many thanks
alastair


On 22 Sep 2009, at 06:28, Ronda Brown wrote:


When you rebuilt the iPhoto Library did you 'tick' "Recover orphaned photos in the iPhoto Library folder".
In fact did you tick all 5 options?

Searching for the files by name within iPhoto won't find these photos as they are disconnected photos. IPhoto has lost the connection to them ... why ...we don't know yet.

Do you have a backup of your iPhoto Library?
If not I would do one before you do anymore messing around ;-)

Cheers,
Ronni

On 22/09/2009, at 12:29 PM, mince and pud wrote:


yes, both of those are ticked


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:47, Ronda Brown wrote:


Have you checked your iPhoto Preferences > Advanced - "Importing: Copy files to iPhoto Library folder when adding to library, and "Add ColorSync profile". Are they both ticked?

On 22/09/2009, at 11:39 AM, mince and pud wrote:


Thanks Ronni and sorry I forgot to mention that I tried a rebuild - it spent an hour on the job but to no avail. As I said, searching for the files by name brings up nothing so I suspect they are gone.

None were greyscale

many thanks


On 22 Sep 2009, at 04:18, Ronda Brown wrote:


On 22/09/2009, at 10:54 AM, mince and pud wrote:


Hi all

I'd really appreciate advice on this iphoto 6 problem - it's a bit tricky to explain which is why I'm having no luck with mr Google...

The last few rolls I imported have disappeared - ie, blank thumbnails and the grey "!" when I try to open one. Searching for them by file number (the thumbnails still have their numbers) fails to find them anywhere.

Hello Alastair,

The ! or ? turns up when iPhoto loses the connection between the thumbnail in the iPhoto Window and the file it represents. Try rebuilding the database. Hold down the apple and option (or alt) keys and launch iPhoto. Use the resulting dialogue to rebuild.


If I import another roll from the camera it seems to go in fine, but it hasn't been stored properly in the library, just in the Imports folder (in a sub-folder called 2001). If I quit iphoto and re-launch, it says there are photos in the library that haven't been imported, would I like to import them? If I say yes, it then asks what to do with all the duplicates, as if they are in there already! If I say import them again, I get a set of working thumbnails, but if I click them I just get !s

(update - after further attempts I now have 2 identical sets of thumbnails for my latest roll which DO launch the files when clicked. But they are still in the 2001 imports folder)

any insights appreciated

Were any of the photos "Greyscale" images?

Try rebuilding the library first Alastair and see how you get on.

Cheers,
Ronni

17" MacBook Pro Intel Core 2 Duo
2.4 GHz / 4GB / 800MHz / 500GB
OS X 10.6.1 Snow Leopard




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