Thanks Neil

Will look into this and thanks for the clear explanation of your
troubleshooting.

Dave


On 6/03/10 9:50 AM, "Neil Houghton" <n...@possumology.com> wrote:

> 
> Hi David,
> 
> Regarding the permissions to check external mail - I had much strangeness
> with this after, I think, a MS Office update (or maybe migrating accounts -
> they both happened around the same time).
> 
> Prior to the problem manifesting, all my email passwords (several email
> accounts) were in my login keychain - but somehow some of them got "lost" so
> Entourage asked me for the passwords again (just some accounts!). After
> giving the passwords, they were now stored in the
> "Microsoft_Intermediate_Certificates" keychain and I kept getting asked for
> permission to use this keychain - at first this was a panic as I didn't have
> the password for this keychain - until I worked out I could just hit OK and
> away it went.
> 
> I then started noticing other strangeness - other internet passwords were
> now being put into the "Microsoft_Intermediate_Certificates" keychain - it
> took me a while to notice that, if I opened Keychain access, the Microsoft
> keychain was in bold - it then twigged that "something" had made the
> Microsoft keychain my default keychain (hence the "bold").
> 
> I made my "login" keychain the default again and then re-created the
> keychain items in question (including the problem email passwords) in my
> (now default) login keychain and deleted these items from the Microsoft
> keychain.
> 
> This took a bit of trial and error for me - at first, I tried to just "move"
> the keychain items - but I was asked for the password to the Microsoft
> keychain and just hitting OK didn't work then (from memory) I tried "copying
> and pasting" the item from one keychain to the other and also just "opening"
> the item and using the info to create a new keychain item in the login
> keychain - these approaches also sometimes asked for the password to the
> Microsoft keychain but seemed to accept just hitting OK.
> 
> Now all is back to normal, new passwords go straight into my login keychain
> and Entourage retrieves the passwords from this keychain without further
> interrogation!!
> 
> 
> In hindsight, I can see that all the problems must have come from the
> changeover of the default keychain from login to Microsoft - which I suspect
> was done by some MS update - just a pity that I did not notice that this had
> happened at the time!
> 
> This may or may not be related to your problem, but it would be worth
> checking Keychain Access to makke sure that your default keychain is still
> "login" and not "Microsoft_Intermediate_Certificates"
> 
> If this turns out to be the problem, the solution has two parts:
> 
> 1) Change the default keychain back to "login"
> 2) Move/copy/create the relevant keychain items in "login" rather than in
> the Microsoft keychain.
> 
> The easiest is "moving", next easiest "copy and Paste", then "create a new
> item" - but it depends on if you can do it without the password to the
> Microsoft keychain - I found it all a bit inconsistent as to when it
> required this.
> 
> I also found that the one item I created from scratch didn't initially work
> - even though all the (visible) info was the same as the one in the other
> keychain - but running Keychain First Aid sorted that out OK - in hindsight
> I would just run this before and after changing any thing (to be sure).
> 
> 
> Other (more knowledgeable) folks may have a more succinct procedure for all
> this - as I say, there was a bit of trial and error on my part - but it did
> get the job done!!
> 
> Hope that helps.
> 
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
> 
> 
> Neil



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