Hi Lynn,

Its important to get your Data off the Hard Drive on the MacBook (if possible).
If you have another Mac (which I presume you do as you are sending emails to 
WAMUG list).
And an external FW Drive (or can get a l of one).
I would suggest you install “Super Duper” or "Carbon Copy Cloner” on this 
‘Other Mac’, then:

A. Have both computers connected to Power Outlet.
B. Disconnect any drives attached to MacBook
C. Connect an external FW drive to ‘Other Mac’

1. Connect your MB to ‘other Mac' via Firewire 400 cable.
2. Boot the MB into “Target Disk Mode” … The ‘Other Mac’ is already booted up. 
The MB’s Hard Drive will appear on the Desktop of ‘Other Mac’ (if it’s not 
completely dead)
3. Open 'Super Duper’ or ‘Carbon Copy Cloner' on ‘Other Mac’ and CLONE the MB 
Hard Drive to the External Drive attached to ‘Other Mac’.

If you are unsure how to use Target Disk Mode:
1. Make sure that the target computer (MacBook) is turned off.
2. Plug in MacBook’s AC power adapter.
3. Use a FireWire cable to connect the target computer (MB) to a host computer 
(Other Mac). The host computer can be powered on.
4. Start up the target computer (MB) and immediately press and hold down the T 
key until the FireWire icon appears. 
The hard disk of the target computer should become available to the host 
computer and will likely appear on desktop.
5. When you are finished copying files, locate the target computer's hard disk 
icon on the desktop of the host computer and drag it to the Trash or choose 
Eject (or Put Away) from the File menu.
6. Press the target computer's power button to turn it off. 
7. Unplug the FireWire cable.

Let us know how you get on please.

Cheers,
Ronni

On 31/01/2011, at 11:40 AM, lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:

> Hi Ronni
>  
> Many thanks for this info.
>  
> Having read the article:
> "This program covers affected MacBook models for 3 years from their original 
> date of purchase or until August 15, 2010 whichever provides longer coverage"
>  
> Will mention this to the repair centre and see what they say.
>  
> The last replacement was ol' trusty giving me the chimes when i tried booting 
> her up and did not get very far.
>  
> Regards
> Lynn
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ronda Brown" <ro...@mac.com>
> To: "WAMUG Mailing List" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Sent: Monday, 31 January, 2011 11:29:11 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
> Hong Kong / Urumqi
> Subject: Re: macbook late 2007 problem
> 
> Hi Lynn,
> 
> Firstly, I would suggest you don’t keep trying to boot-up MacBook. Shut it 
> down and leave it alone until you can get the Data off the Hard Drive.
> The more you try to use the Hard Drive the less chance you have of being able 
> to recover the Data.
> 
> Secondly: Looking back through WAMUG Archives, I found you listed your 
> MacBook details as:
> 
> Mac Specs:
> Model Name:    MacBook
> Processor Name:    Intel Core 2 Duo
> Processor Speed:    2 GHz
> Number Of Processors:    1
> Total Number Of Cores:    2
> L2 Cache:    4 MB
> Memory:    1 GB
> Bus Speed:    667 MHz
> FireWire Bus Maximum Speed:    Up to 400 Mb/sec
> System Version:    Mac OS X 10.5.8
> 
> Your MacBook ‘might’ be eligible for: 'MacBook Repair Extension Program for 
> Hard Drive Issues'
> 
> <http://www.apple.com/support/macbook/hd/repairextension/>
> 
> "Apple Admits MacBook Hard Drives Defective, Offers Free Repair Program”
> "Eligible models (black and white MacBooks sold between May 2006 and December 
> 2007) affected by the problem will be repaired at no cost.”
> 
> "If Apple or an Apple Authorized Service Provider confirms that your hard 
> drive is affected, Apple will replace it with a new hard drive. 
> You will need to have the original OS installation discs that were shipped 
> with your product in order to re-install your operating system, other 
> applications, and any backed up data.”
> 
> <http://gigaom.com/apple/apple-admits-macbook-hard-drives-defective-offers-free-repair-program/>
> 
> Take your MacBook to an Apple Authorized Service Provider and ask them to 
> check it.
> 
> Cheers,
> Ronni
> 
> On 31/01/2011, at 9:03 AM, lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> Many thanks Peter.
>  
> I never do any repairs on my own, the nearest one to me is Next Byte on 
> Stiling Highway. Was thinking of taking it to the Perth Apple store, but dont 
> think they do repairs there...
>  
> Worse comes to the worst, ill just have to replace ol' trusty.
>  
> Regards
> Lynn
>  
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Peter Hinchliffe" <hinch...@multiline.com.au>
> To: "WAMUG Mailing List" <wamug@wamug.org.au>
> Sent: Monday, 31 January, 2011 8:56:18 AM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / 
> Hong Kong / Urumqi
> Subject: Re: macbook late 2007 problem
> 
> 
> On 31/01/2011, at 7:33 AM, lynn...@westnet.com.au wrote:
> 
> hi
>  
> Before I take ol' trusty - laptop that is - to the cleaners and before 
> getting a new one - just wanting people's input/suggestions.
>  
> Ol' trusty has had a hard drive replacement just before the original warranty 
> expired, mid 2008.
>  
> Before Saturday, ol' trusty has been making the weird sounds again, the ones 
> like ol' trusty is about to die on me.
> Then on Saturday, ol' trusty died. When i tried booting her up again, she did 
> not give me any chime sound, but she did give me a folder icon with a 
> question mark in it. I tried booting her up a few times. A few times, she did 
> ask me to select the hard drive to boot up from. I selected the only hard 
> drive she has and then she freezes on me (blank light blue-grey screen).
>  
> If i take her into the cleaners, would they be able to get stuff off her? I 
> do have my backup, but its a couple of weeks old and I dont have my emails on 
> there.
>  
> Would a replacement hard drive do or do i have to replace an all new trusty?
>  
> Ol' trusty's specs:
> Bought her mid to late 2007 - July/August if memory serves me correct
> 13" white macbook
> 80GB hard drive
> just updated OS 10.5.x a couple weeks ago
>  
> Please ask if you need more information about ol' trusty.
>  
> Many thanks and regards
> Lynn
> 
> 
> 
> The folder with question mark fundamentally means that the computer cannot 
> find a startup disk. It doesn't necessarily mean that the hard drive is 
> completely dead (just extremely ill!). Try booting from the System Startup 
> disk that came with your computer (You do have one, don't you?!)) and running 
> Disk Utility from it. If it shows that the hard drive is available then you 
> still have hope. Do not attempt to repair the drive without professional help 
> if you're not sure of what you are doing.
> 
> Certainly, a replacement drive is a viable option, and of course much cheaper 
> than a new computer. It's also easy to do (at least it's not an iBook!). You 
> must at all costs attempt to back up the data on the drive if at all possible 
> before attempting any sort of repair.
> 
> Peter Hinchliffe        Apwin Computer Services
> FileMaker Pro Solutions Developer
> Perth, Western Australia
> Phone (618) 9332 6482    Mob 0403 046 948
> --------------------------------------------------------------------
> Mac because I prefer it -- Windows because I have to.




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