Hey Daniel, How many years have I been saying you should move from Entourage to Apple Mail? ;-) Did it take Apple Mail in Lion to finally convince you to?
Mail, Address Book & iCal all work beautifully together ... All generic Apple Applications! Cheers, Ronni Sent from Ronni's iPad On 24/10/2011, at 10:15 PM, Daniel Kerr <wa...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >> How to Sync iPhone Address Book and Microsoft Entourage For Mac > > Step 1. Export everything from Entourage. > Step 2. Import Everything into Apple Mail, Address Book, iCal. > Step 3. Live happy in the knowledge that it all just works better (and syncs > better), and is easier to keep updated across one set of Apps, then the > other. :) > Step 4. Live happy in the knowledge that Time Machine backups for Apple work > sooo much better then Entourage with it's "one file for everything" file > system (especially when things fall over). > > Honestly,...I can say that Mail, Address Book and iCal all work better the > Entourage did. > And this is coming from someone that used Entourage since Office 2004 and > before that Eudora. It took me a bit to move from Eudora to Entourage and it > took me a bit to move from Entourage to Apple Mail. but I wouldn't go back > now! (I was running both Entourage 2004 and Mail for the last 6 months > getting used to it. Twice the work to look after both, but I could see the > little things that needed "adjusted" and things that worked better or how to > work them better. Plus I'm pedantic with getting it right the first time :o) > > All my folders came across, everything stayed intact. I know only have to > look after Address Book and iCal (where as before I was doing both Address > Book, iCal and Entourage's Address Book because sometimes the syncing "fell > over",...and when you have to go out to do a 9 hour job for a client to fix > their fallen over Entourage Database problems,..you start to realise how bad > a program it really is underneath.) > Plus Mail, Address Book and iCal sync so much nicer with iDevices. > > Sorry,...I couldn't resist :)) > > Kind regards > Daniel > --- > Daniel Kerr > MacWizardry > > Phone: 0414 795 960 > Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> > Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> > > > **For everything Macintosh** > > On 24/10/2011, at 10:05 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: > >> Hi Michael, >> >> How to Sync iPhone Address Book and Microsoft Entourage For Mac >> >> <http://connectedhq.com/blog/2011/05/24/how-to-sync-iphone-address-book-and-microsoft-entourage-for-mac/> >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> Sent from Ronni's iPad >> >> On 24/10/2011, at 8:51 PM, "michael.hawkins" >> <michael.hawk...@mjhawkins.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Thanks Ronni, >>> >>> I think at this stage I'll simply make sure that calendar entries are the >>> same on the iPhone and on the computer, and, after a while, have a go at >>> mastering contacts on the phone and contacts on the computer. As far as >>> that goes, I haven't been able to resolve conflicts between Address Book >>> and Entourage and Address Book and Outlook so I suspect it'll be a while >>> before I attempt to do that between devices. >>> >>> It all started going wrong some years ago when I used Mark/Space and lost >>> silent numbers that were listed on my phone but weren't in contacts in >>> Entourage, or in Address Book. >>> >>> Although I have Pages for iOS, I'll continue to lug my laptop home rather >>> than attempt to use my iPhone ofr word processing. >>> >>> Thanks again, your help is invaluable. >>> >>> Michael. >>> >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "Ronda Brown" <ro...@mac.com> >>> To: wamug@wamug.org.au >>> Sent: Monday, 24 October, 2011 4:24:40 PM GMT +08:00 Beijing / Chongqing / >>> Hong Kong / Urumqi >>> Subject: Re: Sync Contacts, Calendars and Reminders between iPhone 4S and >>> MacBook Pro >>> >>> Hi Michael, >>> >>> On 24/10/2011, at 10:48 AM, Michael Hawkins wrote: >>> >>>> Hi Ronni, >>>> >>>> My first concern with iCloud is whether or not I can control what is sent >>>> to and stored on iCloud. >>> >>> I personally, don’t sync ‘Documents & Data’. I have iWork on my Mac, but I >>> don’t have iWork for iOS (Keynote for iOS, Pages for iOS, Numbers for iOS), >>> so I can’t see a reason why I would use this feature. >>> At the moment I also don’t have ‘Photo Stream’ selected in System >>> Preferences > iCloud. >>> >>> Also on my iPad & iPhone I have iCloud Backup OFF: Settings > iCloud > >>> Storage & Backup - iCloud Backup is OFF >>> I backup on my computer, and of course I have a good Backup Strategy >>> backing up my computers. >>>> >>>> In other words, if when using Pages I save a document to a specified >>>> folder on my MacBook, will that document be automatically sent to and >>>> saved on iCloud? >>> >>> Do you have the iWork for iCloud apps? ( Keynote for iOS, Pages for iOS, >>> Numbers for iOS) >>> The way I read the documentation, you have to physically drag and drop any >>> iWork ’09 or Microsoft Office document from your computer into one of the >>> iWork apps on icloud.com, as explained below under “Documents in the Cloud”. >>> >>> >>>> I would not want that to happen. I want to choose what I send to iCloud, >>>> as I prefer to have information about matters I'm working on kept on a >>>> computer which is kept under lock and key in my office rather than on a >>>> server located who-knows-where, and potentially accessible by any-one with >>>> hacking skills. >>> >>> iCloud is for iDevices … iPhone, iPad, iPod Touch. >>> >>> All that goes to iCloud is data already on your iDevice ( iPhone, iPad) and >>> new documents created in iCloud capable apps such as iWork apps. iCloud is >>> only going to sync iDevices, not the computer. >>> >>> All that is synced from on your computer would be data contained in iTunes >>> such as your Address Book, iCal, Mail, Safari bookmarks, reminders, Notes. >>> >>> Michael, I don’t wish to sound rude or sarcastic, but have you read all the >>> Apple Documentation for iCloud? >>> I have enough trouble getting my head around all the documentation re >>> iCloud & Apple’s Security & Privacy, but you are in the profession that >>> understands all the ‘fine print’. >>> >>> <http://www.apple.com/icloud/features/documents.html> >>> /Quote: >>> "Documents in the Cloud. And on your Mac or PC. >>> iCloud makes it easy to move Pages, Keynote, and Numbers documents between >>> your computer and your iOS devices. >>> Just sign in to icloud.com/iwork in any modern web browser, and all >>> your iWork for iOS documents will be there — complete with your most recent >>> edits. Click a document to download it in iWork ’09, Microsoft Office, or >>> PDF format. You can also drag and drop any iWork ’09 or Microsoft Office >>> document from your computer into one of the iWork apps on icloud.com, and >>> it automatically appears on all your iOS devices, ready for you to review, >>> edit, or present." >>> /End Quote: >>> >>> iCloud automatically stores your 'iWork for iOS' documents and keeps them >>> up to date across all your iOS devices and on icloud.com/iwork. >>> You can easily move your iWork documents between your iOS device and your >>> computer by using www.icloud.com/iwork. >>> >>> <www.icloud.com/iwork> >>> >>> If you keep photos in iPhoto then you can enable PhotoStream to save your >>> iPhoto library and new photos made with your iDevice's camera (if it has >>> one.) >>> >>> iCloud is not a general storage alternative like DropBox, for example. >>> >>> <http://www.apple.com/support/icloud/documents/> >>> >>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4942> >>> >>>> >>>> My second concern is the loss of data and documents stored on iCloud if I >>>> cease to subscribe to iCloud. Apple's warning about that is followed by >>>> the assurance that the data and documents would be available on other >>>> devices which are connected to iCloud (including any device I reconnect to >>>> iCloud). That indicates to me that the documents and data are removed from >>>> (or never saved) on any device used to connect to iCloud. Have I >>>> misunderstood things? >>> >>> You would still have your data & documents on your Mac & iDevices, you >>> would no longer have access to them on iCloud. >>> >>> iCloud Security: >>> iCloud secures your content by encrypting it when sent over the Internet, >>> storing it in an encrypted format, and using secure tokens for >>> authentication. >>> >>> iCloud security and privacy overview >>> <http://support.apple.com/kb/HT4865> >>> >>> iCLOUD TERMS AND CONDITIONS >>> <http://www.apple.com/legal/icloud/en/terms.html> >>> >>> 'Take Control of iCloud’ ebook is a very good $15.49 AUD investment >>> <http://www.takecontrolbooks.com/icloud> >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>>> >>>> -----Original Message----- >>>> From: Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> >>>> Reply-To: WAMUG Mailing List <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>> Date: Sun, 23 Oct 2011 20:52:15 +0800 >>>> To: WAMUG Mailing List <wamug@wamug.org.au> >>>> Subject: Re: Sync Contacts, Calendars and Reminders between iPhone 4S and >>>> MacBook Pro >>>> >>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>> >>>>> No-one is forcing you to use iCloud, you don¹t have to use if it you >>>>> don¹t wish to, it¹s entirely your choice. >>>>> >>>>> I don¹t think you understand what iCloud is. I have used iTools, Dot >>>>> Mac, MobileMe and now the new version of Apple¹s Sync/share services >>>>> iCloud, to sync my Mail & Notes, Contacts, Calendars, Bookmarks, use Back >>>>> to My Mac & Find My Mac. So my MBP, iPad & iPhone 4S are all in sync in >>>>> Œreal time¹. Any change I make on any device immediately shows on all my >>>>> other devices. >>>>> >>>>> (SNIP) >>>>> >>>>> How Does It Work?: >>>>> To use iCloud, users must have an iTunes account. When certain kinds of >>>>> data are added or updated on compatible devices, they will be >>>>> automatically uploaded to the user¹s iCloud account and then >>>>> automatically downloaded to the user¹s other devices. >>>>> In this way, iCloud is both a storage tool and a system to keep all your >>>>> data in sync across multiple devices. >>>>> >>>>> (SNIP) >>>>> With Documents: >>>>> >>>> With an iCloud account, when you create or edit documents in compatible >>>>> apps, the document will automatically upload to iCloud and then sync to >>>>> all devices also running those apps. Apple¹s Pages, Keynote, and Numbers >>>>> apps include this feature already. Third-party developers will be able to >>>>> add it to their apps. >>>>> Apple is referring to this feature as 'Documents in the Cloud.¹ >>>>> >>>>> With Data >>>> : >>>>> Compatible devices will automatically backup music, iBooks, apps, >>>>> settings, photos, and app data to iCloud over Wi-Fi every day. >>>>> ICloud also includes a calendar-sharing feature, automatic syncing of >>>>> contacts in the address books of all compatible devices, and automatic >>>>> syncing of email messages for devices using Apple¹s @me.com email >>>>> accounts. >>>>> >>>>> (SNIP) >>>>> >>>>>>> For all I know the server (cloud) could be hosted by Colonel Gaddafi! >>>>> >>>>> I don¹t think Gaddafi will be hosting anything where he has gone! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 ³Thunderbolt" >>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD >>>>> >>>>> OS X 10.7.2 Lion >>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) >>>>> On 23/10/2011, at 7:24 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> Hi Ronni, >>>>>> >>>>>> I couldn't work out what the warning from Apple meant - the one that >>>>>> says all will be lost and I'll be doomed if in the future I stop using >>>>>> iCloud. I'm very, very reluctant to become a hostage to any service >>>>>> provider or storage host, and I'm even more reluctant to store client >>>>>> information on a "cloud". For all I know the server (cloud) could be >>>>>> hosted by Colonel Gaddafi! >>>>>> >>>>>> And so I was conservative and only attempted to sync Contacts, >>>>>> Calendars and Reminders and took care to stay away from Documents & >>>>>> Data: there was no way I was going lo have them removed from my computer >>>>>> and become inaccessible if I stopped using iCloud. >>>>>> >>>>>> It also seemed to me that Apple set things up so that the device with >>>>>> the most recent information upon it over-rode the device with older >>>>>> information on it. Some of my data goes back to the mid-nineties, >>>>>> especially email addresses. I don't want to risk losing those. >>>>>> >>>>>> Regards, >>>>>> >>>>>> A happy but relieved All Black supporter but didn't the French play >>>>>> well, >>>>>> >>>>>> Michael. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23/10/2011, at 2:25 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Hi Michael, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> How have you setup syncing? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Have you setup iCloud on your Mac to Sync Mail, Contacts, Calendars, >>>>>>> Reminders, Bookmarks, Notes (Photo Stream if you want it), Documents & >>>>>>> Data, Back to My Mac & Find my Mac in System Preferences ,and then >>>>>>> after you received the message ³Now setup your Devices² (or similar) >>>>>>> iCloud on your iPhone 4S to sync the same? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If you are syncing using iCloud, DON¹T have syncing of these items in >>>>>>> iTunes (Turn them OFF in iTunes) otherwise you will end up with >>>>>>> duplicates. >>>>>>> You sync from the Cloud Š ³iCloud²! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> In iTunes you only sync what iCloud doesn¹t Š example: Music, Movies, >>>>>>> TV Shows, etc >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 ³Thunderbolt" >>>>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD >>>>>>> >>>>>>> OS X 10.7.2 Lion >>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) >>>>>>> On 23/10/2011, at 1:44 PM, Michael Hawkins wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I want to merge the information I have on my iPhone 4S with the >>>>>>>> information >>>>>>>> on my MacBook Pro. How can I set things up so that that happens, >>>>>>>> rather than >>>>>>>> having one device overriding the other and deleting whatever is >>>>>>>> different in >>>>>>>> the process? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> MacBook Pro >>>>>>>> 2.4 Ghz Intel Core 2 Duo >>>>>>>> 6 GB 667 Mhz DDR2 SDRAM >>>>>>>> OS 10.7.2 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> iPhone 4S >>>>>>>> iOS 5.0 (9A334) >>>>>>>> Modern Firmware 1.0.11 >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> iCloud has left me in a fog. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Regards and thanks in advance, >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Michael Hawkins. >>>>>>>> Go the Mighty AB's! >>> >>> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>
