Hi Carlo

Thankyou very much for your really informative email regarding the DRM issues 
with ePub books; I had no idea of the disparity between vendors!

I will take your advice and limit the number of apps I need. I guess ibooks, 
borders and amazon would cover most?

Are there any places that I can find and download 'DRM free' ebooks?

Best regards and many thanks

Chris


Christopher L.K. Burton
Director
Western Whale Research
PO Box 1076
Dunsborough WA 6281
Mobile: 0419 199 120
Email: c...@it.net.au 

On 05/05/2012, at 2:55 PM, cm wrote:

> Hi Chris,
> 
> With ePub books there is always the question of Digital Rights Management 
> (DRM). DRM is a system whereby only the legal owner of an eBook can open it 
> on his or her device. Some books have gone into the public domain and will be 
> DRM free, but many eBooks that you pay for will be locked to your particular 
> user ID with a given vendor. A quick search reveals that Borders relies on an 
> Adobe ID to enforce its DRM. Apple and iBooks rely on your Apple ID.
> 
> For DRM protected eBooks you may find you need to maintain a separate reader 
> on your iPad for each vendor that you purchase from. It is a case of having 
> to enter the correct ID for a given vender. In my case, for instance, I try 
> to purchase a book on the iTunes book store first and if it is not available 
> I check Amazon. For my iTunes eBooks I use the iBooks reader app, and for my 
> Amazon purchases I use the Kindle app.
> 
> This is far from satisfactory and it is something that the vendors could 
> easily fix with a bit of cooperation. The DRM on the ePub format is 
> standardised so it would not be hard for one piece of software to maintain 
> multiple IDs for the various vendors and use the correct ID to open each 
> eBook. At the moment, however, there is an arms race between vendors to win 
> market share and there is very little cooperation in evidence.
> 
> I would recommend limiting the number of vendors you  purchase DRM protected 
> eBooks from to the bare minimum to save headaches with managing multiple 
> accounts and IDs.
> 
> Cheers,
> Carlo
> 
> On 05/05/2012, at 11:01 , Chris Burton wrote:
> 
>> Hi Laura
>> 
>> Thanks very much for your suggestion of Borders. They do have a very good 
>> range at reasonable prices. 
>> 
>> After arranging for a refund from Fishpond, I did a search and some ebooks 
>> came up on itunes, as well as Borders. Both have a good range and prices. 
>> 
>> Is their a difference in the type of ebook format between them or are they 
>> the same in terms of downloading to the ipad?
>> 
>> Best regards and thankyou very much
>> 
>> Chris
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> On 04/05/2012, at 4:50 PM, Laura Webb wrote:
>> 
>>> Hi Chris
>>> 
>>> Ages ago I had a similar problem with Fishpond and eBooks and no longer use 
>>> them. I did suggest they should offer a warning for iPad users but it did 
>>> not happen. I find Borders to be very reliable with instant ebook downloads 
>>> to my iPad.
>>> 
>>> Regards
>>> Laura 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 04/05/2012, at 8:11 AM, Chris Burton <c...@it.net.au> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Hi ronnie
>>>> And thanks very much for bringing this to my attention. I had no idea & 
>>>> will be asking for my $ back! No wonder the ebooks are so cheap @ fishpond.
>>>> Best regards
>>>> Chris
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 04/05/2012, at 1:46 PM, Ronda Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 04/05/2012, at 10:48 AM, Chris Burton wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Morning muggers
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I watched the Steve Jobs story with great interest last night and 
>>>>>>>> marvelled at his life and achievements with Apple. It feels really 
>>>>>>>> good to have been a part of it by using macs all these years and 
>>>>>>>> certainly bought up some memories!! For example I had forgotten that 
>>>>>>>> Apple had licenced other companies to make similar machines and I 
>>>>>>>> didnt realise that Apple had gone so very close to going under!!
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> I have been offshore for the last 6 weeks and while away ordered an 
>>>>>>>> ebook from Fishpond to use on my ipad (v1). However I just wanted to 
>>>>>>>> ask what is the best way to transfer this epub book to my ipad: via 
>>>>>>>> itunes after download to my MBPro; by direct download from Fishpond to 
>>>>>>>> the ipad, or some other way, as it is the first of such books I would 
>>>>>>>> like to buy and use on my ipad?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hi Chris,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I just noticed no-one has answered your question. :(
>>>>> 
>>>>> Unless Fishpond have changed; Fishpond eBooks cannot be downloaded, they 
>>>>> have to be read online.
>>>>> 
>>>>> There is nothing obvious to indicate that the purchase of the ebook won't 
>>>>> allow download and you can read it offline on your iPad.
>>>>> 
>>>>> But I just tried with a free eBook just to see if Fishpond had changed, 
>>>>> but no... It can only be read in Fishpond online.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I did a quick google search and found that one person emailed Fishpond 
>>>>> and received a Refund for the eBook he purchased as he thought he would 
>>>>> be able to download the eBook to read on his eBook Reader.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Hopefully they will adjust their website to make it more clear what the 
>>>>> ebook you are buying actually is.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Normally with other sellers of ePub eBooks you can download directly to 
>>>>> your iPad into iBooks, or to your Mac so you can then Add to iTunes 
>>>>> Library and the ePub appears under Library in Books.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Ronni
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Best regards to all and thanks for any advice.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chris
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Christopher L.K. Burton
>>>>>>>> Director
>>>>>>>> Western Whale Research
>>>>>>>> PO Box 1076
>>>>>>>> Dunsborough WA 6281
>>>>>>>> Mobile: 0419 199 120
>>>>>>>> Email: c...@it.net.au
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