Thanks Rhona, Yes it could take some time, I have recovered using the check boxes with destination to an external 2Tb, I don't need the manual because I don't think I will let this happen again but I do need to know the correct procedure when all is on the External, will it just be like the original Folder.
On 11/05/2012, at 2:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: > Best of luck Rick, > > Do you have the Data Rescue 3 Users Guide manual? > If not I can email it to you, it is 3.1MB size. > > It will most likely take hours and hours to scan the Trash Folder (you have > had the G4 for many years...lots of trash has been emptied... don't stop it > ;-) > > After DR3 has completed the scan in Step 3: Find and Select Files on Page 22 > Then Preview the files, then Recovering Files on page 25 - 26 > > ► ► To recover files using the checkboxes: > > • Click on the checkboxes to mark any files you are interested in > recovering. > • Click on the Recover button. > • Select the destination for your files to be transferred to and click > on Open. Allow adequate time > for the files to be transferred onto the destination. > > > The “drag and drop” recovery process is the quickest way to move a file or > folder to the destination hard drive if you are booted from your operating > system. However, this method of recovery is not available while booted from > the DVD since the operating system's Finder windows are not available to drag > to a destination. > > ► ► To recover files using the drag and drop method: > > • Highlight the file or folder you want to recover. > • Click and drag the highlighted file or folder from the Scan Results > list onto the destination hard > drive or folder on Apple's Finder. > Allow adequate time for the files to be transferred onto the destination. > > This will also take time. > Let me know if you want the Data Rescue 3 Users Guide > > Cheers, > Ronni > > On 11/05/2012, at 1:47 PM, Rick Armstrong wrote: > >> Yes, this is what happen as Rhonda has clarified >> "deleted the original file on the G4 and the iMac, and emptied the trash >> while still TDM, then correctly ejecting the G4" >> "Data Recovery" has located the folder in Trash and is now recovering the >> files. This is taking much time to recover so it looks like it is going to >> be successfully - I won't know until I open up the individual files to see >> if they are all OK. Thanks all - I looking forward to advise if totally >> successful. >> On 11/05/2012, at 12:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >> >>> Hi Neil, >>> >>> Yes, we know that if Target Disk Mode is used correctly it does not >>> overwrite the original file when you transfer that file to another Mac, as >>> Daniel mentioned previously. >>> The 50GB Folder should have still been on the G4 in its original location. >>> >>> Rick mentioned that he ejected the G4 correctly; so that ruled out "loss of >>> Data" that can happen if you simply leave TDM by turning off the Target >>> Mac.... Instead of either dragging the target Mac's HD to the Trash (eject) >>> or select File > Eject from the File menu. >>> It's very important to do this step because if you simply leave TDM (by >>> turning off the Target Mac) before doing it you can lose files. >>> >>> So, either Rick 'thought' he ejected the G4 correctly as above; but didn't. >>> OR >>> Rick deleted the original file on the G4 & the iMac, and emptied the trash >>> while still in TDM; that is BEFORE correctly ejecting the G4. >>> >>> Either of the above could have caused the loss of the 50GB folder. >>> >>> This is why we always backup a client's computer before we do any work that >>> has a risk of data loss. >>> I am super careful with other peoples data as well as my own. >>> Before using Target Disk Mode I "Repair Disk Permissions" on both Drives, >>> and then Backup the clients drive! >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> On 11/05/2012, at 11:30 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: >>> >>>> I find the sequence of events somewhat hard to follow - but have just one >>>> observation: >>>> >>>> If you had the G4 mounted as a target drive on the iMac and then aborted a >>>> transfer to the iMac and deleted the destination folder on the iMac then >>>> you >>>> obviously wouldn't expect to have it on the iMac - but, as others have >>>> already said, you would expect the original to be still on the G4. >>>> >>>> However, IF you somehow deleted the original while still in target mode AND >>>> emptied the trash whilst still in target mode then you have, in effect, >>>> emptied the trash on BOTH discs - in which case, without a good backup to >>>> fall back on, data recovery is probably your only hope. >>>> >>>> >>>> Cheers >>>> >>>> >>>> Neil >>>> -- >>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>> Email: n...@possumology.com >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> >>>> on 11/5/12 9:33 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote: >>>> >>>>> OMG Rick, >>>>> >>>>> When you make a mistake... you really make a mistake! And then you >>>>> continued >>>>> complicating the mistake ;-) >>>>> Why empty the trash until you have completed the transfer and know >>>>> everything >>>>> is correct? >>>>> >>>>> If the folder is NOT on the iMac and you did NOT delete it from the G4, it >>>>> still has to be on the G4. >>>>> Have you looked in the Trash on the G4? >>>>> >>>>> What was the original location (Path) of the Folder on the G4? >>>>> >>>>> Check the original location of the folder on the G4, if it is not there... >>>>> check the location on the G4 that you were transferring the folder to when >>>>> transferring to the iMac (if it was a different location). >>>>> >>>>> I can't believe that a 50GB Folder that was visible, could become >>>>> invisible by >>>>> transfer. >>>>> It was not in the Library...? >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> On 11/05/2012, at 9:21 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> No it is not on the iMac plus I emptied the trash (if it was in the >>>>>> trash it wouldn't have emptied that quickly) - I unmounted correctly by >>>>>> ejecting. From vague memory the HD has _not _been reduced by 50Gb. >>>>>> Robert has suggested it may be an invisible file and has given me some >>>>>> links (thanks), I have a poke around there without doing anything >>>>>> further first. I think at the end of the day "Data Rescue" is pobably >>>>>> the safest. Thanks. >>>>>> >>>>>> On 11/05/12 9:01 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>> Hi Rick >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Is the Client folder definitely not on the iMac? ie not in the location >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> was being copied to or in the trash? >>>>>>> Did you unmount the G4 drive before disconnecting the FireWire cable or >>>>>>> just >>>>>>> shut down the machines? >>>>>>> Does the G4 show the amount of space for the folder the client folder >>>>>>> was in >>>>>>> or does it look to be less then the size it was. Eg if it was the >>>>>>> Documents >>>>>>> folder and you do a Get Info on it does it show as being large enough to >>>>>>> hold the 50gb data or less. That will show if it's actually there or >>>>>>> not. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> There are some program's that show invisible files, but they can be a >>>>>>> bit >>>>>>> dangerous if you're not sure on file formats or locations. And the above >>>>>>> size query would override looking if the folders not big enough anyway. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Im guessing there wasn't a backup of the G4 before you started? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If it was me I'd want to be doing a clone of the g4 in its current state >>>>>>> before doing anything else, that way there's always a fall back point >>>>>>> to go >>>>>>> back too. Takes longer but then at least the drive is covered one way >>>>>>> or the >>>>>>> other. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Then data recovery (from the likes of Data Rescue) is an option if >>>>>>> nothing >>>>>>> else turns up >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>>>>>> >>>>>>> --- >>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>> Email:<daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> Web:<http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> ** For Everything Apple ** >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/05/2012, at 8:40 AM, Rick Armstrong<a...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Yes Ronni, that is correct, via target mode >>>>>>>> 1. A simple procedure, I could see the G4 HD on the iMac, so >>>>>>>> transferred >>>>>>>> the _one_ Client Folder to the iMac (too easy) >>>>>>>> 2. Then thought I should _copy_ the Client Folder to the iMac because >>>>>>>> if >>>>>>>> I disconnect from target mode the folder is not going to be there. >>>>>>>> 3. So started a copy and thought I should back up the Client Folder >>>>>>>> _first_ so abandoned the procedure and trashed the Client Folder from >>>>>>>> the iMac. >>>>>>>> 4. Then ejected the G4 and on start up of the G4 the client folder was >>>>>>>> missing. >>>>>>>> 5. Panic, then spotlight, disk utility, permissions and restart on the >>>>>>>> G4 but so sign of the missing folder. >>>>>>>> 6. Downloaded the trail version of "Stellar Phoenix Macintosh Data >>>>>>>> Recovery" and Client Folder showed up in the recovery. >>>>>>>> 7. So should I proceed down this and get full version or has damaged >>>>>>>> been already done to the Clients Folder File. >>>>>>>> Daniel, say it just may be invisible or the directory may need >>>>>>>> repairing, I don't how to do this or how to find an invisible folder. >>>>>>>> The folder is about 50Gb so it I am hoping it can't be deleted that >>>>>>>> quickly. >>>>>>>> Thanks all, Rick. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/05/12 7:49 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Rick, >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> To try and get some clarity on what you were attempting to do... >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Were you trying to transfer this 50GB Folder from your old G4 running >>>>>>>>> Tiger to your new iMac (that I assisted you with 'offlist' doing a >>>>>>>>> Erase >>>>>>>>> 'Wipe of the Drive' and then a 'Clean Install of Lion', back in March >>>>>>>>> 2012)? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 10/05/2012, at 10:51 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Not sure what to advise on this one, not having come across a problem >>>>>>>>>> like that before. >>>>>>>>>> But before I did anything I'd be making a clone of the G4 or ensuring >>>>>>>>>> it's all backed up before started. (Like with most jobs, should >>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>> ensure a backup is on hand or available before starting). >>>>>>>>>> I'm assuming the client doesn't have a backup of the data? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Was it a migration to a new iMac? Or transferring data over to a >>>>>>>>>> newer >>>>>>>>>> machine? >>>>>>>>>> Target mode copy shouldn't really overwrite the original, even when >>>>>>>>>> it >>>>>>>>>> stopped, so that itself is a bit strange. >>>>>>>>>> If you target mode the original computer to another computer does the >>>>>>>>>> folder show up that way? >>>>>>>>>> Does the location where the folder should be show as the correct >>>>>>>>>> sizing >>>>>>>>>> at all? (i.e. does it add to what you would expect with or what out >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> data that is "missing". >>>>>>>>>> Could possibly be in a different location (And not showing in a >>>>>>>>>> search), >>>>>>>>>> or be invisible, or the directory just needs repaired to show it >>>>>>>>>> correctly. (if it's still there). >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> But as mentioned, I'd certainly be backing everything up to a spare >>>>>>>>>> drive >>>>>>>>>> before even attempting anything like that, especially with a clients >>>>>>>>>> data, and checking what backups they have in place as well. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Let us know how you go >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>>>> Email:<daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>> Web:<http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 10/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, Rick Armstrong wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> It was a Clients Folder and I have looked everywhere, it is not >>>>>>>>>>> there in >>>>>>>>>>> the Macintosh HD. I have used a Stellar Phoenix Macintosh Data >>>>>>>>>>> Recovery >>>>>>>>>>> and this seems to have located the folder but I have to purchase the >>>>>>>>>>> software (about $100.00) ok if it enables me to retrieve all the >>>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>>>> in that folder without corruption. Thanks, Rick. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/05/12 7:28 PM, cm wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rick, >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> It depends which folder you are looking for of course but if it was >>>>>>>>>>>> your Documents folder, you will find it at >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard Drive Name]/Users/[Account Name]/Documents >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Where: "Hard Drive Name" is the hard drive you have mounted in >>>>>>>>>>>> target >>>>>>>>>>>> mode and >>>>>>>>>>>> "Account Name" is your user login -- something like "Rick" >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If Documents was not the folder you are looking for, let us know >>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>> folder it is and how you navigated to the folder on your old >>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/05/2012, at 17:46 , Rick Armstrong wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In an attempt to copy a folder approx 50Gb using target disk from >>>>>>>>>>>>> a >>>>>>>>>>>>> G4 to and iMac and then abandoning the attempt because I wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>>>>>> what I was doing am not able to find that folder on the original >>>>>>>>>>>>> HD >>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere. 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