Hi All, Thanks everyone especially Ronni for all support and advice and using "Stellar Phoenix" Data Rescue has recovered and restored ALL folders and sub folders successfully now, folder restored was invisible but with support advise from "Stellar Phoenix" they were made visible again with a Terminal command. 1. Open the Terminal Window. 2. Type the below command: defaults write com.apple.finder AppleShowAllFiles TRUE killall Finder 3. Press 'Enter'. and the files were visible Thanks, Rick.
On 11/05/2012, at 4:02 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: > Hi Rick, > > I just realised, you probably used the 'Deleted Files Scan' - Scan Method. > If that is the case, in Data Rescue 3 the files will be 'Reconstructed > Files', therefore they will be organised by file names and file type. > > These results will NOT have their original directory structure and will > usually not have their original files names since they are found by file > patterns. > > You will want to look through the Reconstructed Files results if you are > recovering files that were accidentally deleted. > > Taken from Data Rescue 3 Users Guide: > > "Data Rescue 3 will organize files into two different folders: Found Files > and Reconstructed Files. The files found by Data Rescue will be organized > depending on the scan method you use. > > Found Files will be listed in the results window when using a Quick Scan or > Deep Scan. Found Files displays any files from any file systems it detects, > listing original directory structures and file names. You will want to look > through the Found Files results if you are recovering from a hard drive that > has failed to boot to the operating system or if your external hard drive is > failing to mount. > > Reconstructed Files will be listed in the results window when using a Deep > Scan or Deleted Files Scan. > The Reconstructed Files results will organize any found files by category and > file type. These results will NOT have their original directory structure and > will usually not have their original file names since they are found by file > patterns. You will want to look through the Reconstructed Files results if > you are recovering from a hard drive that was accidentally reformatted or had > files that were accidentally deleted. " > > Cheers, > Ronni > > On 11/05/2012, at 3:10 PM, Rick Armstrong wrote: > >> Thanks Rhona, >> Yes it could take some time, I have recovered using the check boxes with >> destination to an external 2Tb, I don't need the manual because I don't >> think I will let this happen again but I do need to know the correct >> procedure when all is on the External, will it just be like the original >> Folder. >> >> On 11/05/2012, at 2:08 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >> >>> Best of luck Rick, >>> >>> Do you have the Data Rescue 3 Users Guide manual? >>> If not I can email it to you, it is 3.1MB size. >>> >>> It will most likely take hours and hours to scan the Trash Folder (you have >>> had the G4 for many years...lots of trash has been emptied... don't stop >>> it ;-) >>> >>> After DR3 has completed the scan in Step 3: Find and Select Files on Page 22 >>> Then Preview the files, then Recovering Files on page 25 - 26 >>> >>> ► ► To recover files using the checkboxes: >>> >>> • Click on the checkboxes to mark any files you are interested in >>> recovering. >>> • Click on the Recover button. >>> • Select the destination for your files to be transferred to and click >>> on Open. Allow adequate time >>> for the files to be transferred onto the destination. >>> >>> >>> The “drag and drop” recovery process is the quickest way to move a file or >>> folder to the destination hard drive if you are booted from your operating >>> system. However, this method of recovery is not available while booted from >>> the DVD since the operating system's Finder windows are not available to >>> drag to a destination. >>> >>> ► ► To recover files using the drag and drop method: >>> >>> • Highlight the file or folder you want to recover. >>> • Click and drag the highlighted file or folder from the Scan Results >>> list onto the destination hard >>> drive or folder on Apple's Finder. >>> Allow adequate time for the files to be transferred onto the destination. >>> >>> This will also take time. >>> Let me know if you want the Data Rescue 3 Users Guide >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Ronni >>> >>> On 11/05/2012, at 1:47 PM, Rick Armstrong wrote: >>> >>>> Yes, this is what happen as Rhonda has clarified >>>> "deleted the original file on the G4 and the iMac, and emptied the trash >>>> while still TDM, then correctly ejecting the G4" >>>> "Data Recovery" has located the folder in Trash and is now recovering the >>>> files. This is taking much time to recover so it looks like it is going to >>>> be successfully - I won't know until I open up the individual files to see >>>> if they are all OK. Thanks all - I looking forward to advise if totally >>>> successful. >>>> On 11/05/2012, at 12:38 PM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Neil, >>>>> >>>>> Yes, we know that if Target Disk Mode is used correctly it does not >>>>> overwrite the original file when you transfer that file to another Mac, >>>>> as Daniel mentioned previously. >>>>> The 50GB Folder should have still been on the G4 in its original location. >>>>> >>>>> Rick mentioned that he ejected the G4 correctly; so that ruled out "loss >>>>> of Data" that can happen if you simply leave TDM by turning off the >>>>> Target Mac.... Instead of either dragging the target Mac's HD to the >>>>> Trash (eject) or select File > Eject from the File menu. >>>>> It's very important to do this step because if you simply leave TDM (by >>>>> turning off the Target Mac) before doing it you can lose files. >>>>> >>>>> So, either Rick 'thought' he ejected the G4 correctly as above; but >>>>> didn't. >>>>> OR >>>>> Rick deleted the original file on the G4 & the iMac, and emptied the >>>>> trash while still in TDM; that is BEFORE correctly ejecting the G4. >>>>> >>>>> Either of the above could have caused the loss of the 50GB folder. >>>>> >>>>> This is why we always backup a client's computer before we do any work >>>>> that has a risk of data loss. >>>>> I am super careful with other peoples data as well as my own. >>>>> Before using Target Disk Mode I "Repair Disk Permissions" on both Drives, >>>>> and then Backup the clients drive! >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> On 11/05/2012, at 11:30 AM, Neil Houghton wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> I find the sequence of events somewhat hard to follow - but have just one >>>>>> observation: >>>>>> >>>>>> If you had the G4 mounted as a target drive on the iMac and then aborted >>>>>> a >>>>>> transfer to the iMac and deleted the destination folder on the iMac then >>>>>> you >>>>>> obviously wouldn't expect to have it on the iMac - but, as others have >>>>>> already said, you would expect the original to be still on the G4. >>>>>> >>>>>> However, IF you somehow deleted the original while still in target mode >>>>>> AND >>>>>> emptied the trash whilst still in target mode then you have, in effect, >>>>>> emptied the trash on BOTH discs - in which case, without a good backup to >>>>>> fall back on, data recovery is probably your only hope. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Cheers >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Neil >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Neil R. Houghton >>>>>> Albany, Western Australia >>>>>> Tel: +61 8 9841 6063 >>>>>> Email: n...@possumology.com >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> on 11/5/12 9:33 AM, Ronda Brown at ro...@mac.com wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> OMG Rick, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> When you make a mistake... you really make a mistake! And then you >>>>>>> continued >>>>>>> complicating the mistake ;-) >>>>>>> Why empty the trash until you have completed the transfer and know >>>>>>> everything >>>>>>> is correct? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> If the folder is NOT on the iMac and you did NOT delete it from the G4, >>>>>>> it >>>>>>> still has to be on the G4. >>>>>>> Have you looked in the Trash on the G4? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> What was the original location (Path) of the Folder on the G4? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Check the original location of the folder on the G4, if it is not >>>>>>> there... >>>>>>> check the location on the G4 that you were transferring the folder to >>>>>>> when >>>>>>> transferring to the iMac (if it was a different location). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> I can't believe that a 50GB Folder that was visible, could become >>>>>>> invisible by >>>>>>> transfer. >>>>>>> It was not in the Library...? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>> >>>>>>> On 11/05/2012, at 9:21 AM, Rick Armstrong wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No it is not on the iMac plus I emptied the trash (if it was in the >>>>>>>> trash it wouldn't have emptied that quickly) - I unmounted correctly by >>>>>>>> ejecting. From vague memory the HD has _not _been reduced by 50Gb. >>>>>>>> Robert has suggested it may be an invisible file and has given me some >>>>>>>> links (thanks), I have a poke around there without doing anything >>>>>>>> further first. I think at the end of the day "Data Rescue" is pobably >>>>>>>> the safest. Thanks. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 11/05/12 9:01 AM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>>>> Hi Rick >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Is the Client folder definitely not on the iMac? ie not in the >>>>>>>>> location it >>>>>>>>> was being copied to or in the trash? >>>>>>>>> Did you unmount the G4 drive before disconnecting the FireWire cable >>>>>>>>> or just >>>>>>>>> shut down the machines? >>>>>>>>> Does the G4 show the amount of space for the folder the client folder >>>>>>>>> was in >>>>>>>>> or does it look to be less then the size it was. Eg if it was the >>>>>>>>> Documents >>>>>>>>> folder and you do a Get Info on it does it show as being large enough >>>>>>>>> to >>>>>>>>> hold the 50gb data or less. That will show if it's actually there or >>>>>>>>> not. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> There are some program's that show invisible files, but they can be a >>>>>>>>> bit >>>>>>>>> dangerous if you're not sure on file formats or locations. And the >>>>>>>>> above >>>>>>>>> size query would override looking if the folders not big enough >>>>>>>>> anyway. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Im guessing there wasn't a backup of the G4 before you started? >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> If it was me I'd want to be doing a clone of the g4 in its current >>>>>>>>> state >>>>>>>>> before doing anything else, that way there's always a fall back point >>>>>>>>> to go >>>>>>>>> back too. Takes longer but then at least the drive is covered one way >>>>>>>>> or the >>>>>>>>> other. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Then data recovery (from the likes of Data Rescue) is an option if >>>>>>>>> nothing >>>>>>>>> else turns up >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>>> Email:<daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>> Web:<http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> ** For Everything Apple ** >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> On 11/05/2012, at 8:40 AM, Rick Armstrong<a...@iinet.net.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Yes Ronni, that is correct, via target mode >>>>>>>>>> 1. A simple procedure, I could see the G4 HD on the iMac, so >>>>>>>>>> transferred >>>>>>>>>> the _one_ Client Folder to the iMac (too easy) >>>>>>>>>> 2. Then thought I should _copy_ the Client Folder to the iMac >>>>>>>>>> because if >>>>>>>>>> I disconnect from target mode the folder is not going to be there. >>>>>>>>>> 3. So started a copy and thought I should back up the Client Folder >>>>>>>>>> _first_ so abandoned the procedure and trashed the Client Folder from >>>>>>>>>> the iMac. >>>>>>>>>> 4. Then ejected the G4 and on start up of the G4 the client folder >>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>> missing. >>>>>>>>>> 5. Panic, then spotlight, disk utility, permissions and restart on >>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>> G4 but so sign of the missing folder. >>>>>>>>>> 6. Downloaded the trail version of "Stellar Phoenix Macintosh Data >>>>>>>>>> Recovery" and Client Folder showed up in the recovery. >>>>>>>>>> 7. So should I proceed down this and get full version or has damaged >>>>>>>>>> been already done to the Clients Folder File. >>>>>>>>>> Daniel, say it just may be invisible or the directory may need >>>>>>>>>> repairing, I don't how to do this or how to find an invisible folder. >>>>>>>>>> The folder is about 50Gb so it I am hoping it can't be deleted that >>>>>>>>>> quickly. >>>>>>>>>> Thanks all, Rick. >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 11/05/12 7:49 AM, Ronda Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rick, >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> To try and get some clarity on what you were attempting to do... >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Were you trying to transfer this 50GB Folder from your old G4 >>>>>>>>>>> running >>>>>>>>>>> Tiger to your new iMac (that I assisted you with 'offlist' doing a >>>>>>>>>>> Erase >>>>>>>>>>> 'Wipe of the Drive' and then a 'Clean Install of Lion', back in >>>>>>>>>>> March >>>>>>>>>>> 2012)? >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 10/05/2012, at 10:51 PM, Daniel Kerr wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure what to advise on this one, not having come across a >>>>>>>>>>>> problem >>>>>>>>>>>> like that before. >>>>>>>>>>>> But before I did anything I'd be making a clone of the G4 or >>>>>>>>>>>> ensuring >>>>>>>>>>>> it's all backed up before started. (Like with most jobs, should >>>>>>>>>>>> always >>>>>>>>>>>> ensure a backup is on hand or available before starting). >>>>>>>>>>>> I'm assuming the client doesn't have a backup of the data? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Was it a migration to a new iMac? Or transferring data over to a >>>>>>>>>>>> newer >>>>>>>>>>>> machine? >>>>>>>>>>>> Target mode copy shouldn't really overwrite the original, even >>>>>>>>>>>> when it >>>>>>>>>>>> stopped, so that itself is a bit strange. >>>>>>>>>>>> If you target mode the original computer to another computer does >>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>> folder show up that way? >>>>>>>>>>>> Does the location where the folder should be show as the correct >>>>>>>>>>>> sizing >>>>>>>>>>>> at all? (i.e. does it add to what you would expect with or what >>>>>>>>>>>> out the >>>>>>>>>>>> data that is "missing". >>>>>>>>>>>> Could possibly be in a different location (And not showing in a >>>>>>>>>>>> search), >>>>>>>>>>>> or be invisible, or the directory just needs repaired to show it >>>>>>>>>>>> correctly. (if it's still there). >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> But as mentioned, I'd certainly be backing everything up to a >>>>>>>>>>>> spare drive >>>>>>>>>>>> before even attempting anything like that, especially with a >>>>>>>>>>>> clients >>>>>>>>>>>> data, and checking what backups they have in place as well. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Let us know how you go >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards >>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel >>>>>>>>>>>> --- >>>>>>>>>>>> Daniel Kerr >>>>>>>>>>>> MacWizardry >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>>>>>>>>>>> Email:<daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>>> Web:<http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> **For everything Macintosh** >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/05/2012, at 9:13 PM, Rick Armstrong wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> It was a Clients Folder and I have looked everywhere, it is not >>>>>>>>>>>>> there in >>>>>>>>>>>>> the Macintosh HD. I have used a Stellar Phoenix Macintosh Data >>>>>>>>>>>>> Recovery >>>>>>>>>>>>> and this seems to have located the folder but I have to purchase >>>>>>>>>>>>> the >>>>>>>>>>>>> software (about $100.00) ok if it enables me to retrieve all the >>>>>>>>>>>>> files >>>>>>>>>>>>> in that folder without corruption. Thanks, Rick. >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/05/12 7:28 PM, cm wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Rick, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> It depends which folder you are looking for of course but if it >>>>>>>>>>>>>> was >>>>>>>>>>>>>> your Documents folder, you will find it at >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> [Hard Drive Name]/Users/[Account Name]/Documents >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Where: "Hard Drive Name" is the hard drive you have mounted in >>>>>>>>>>>>>> target >>>>>>>>>>>>>> mode and >>>>>>>>>>>>>> "Account Name" is your user login -- something like "Rick" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If Documents was not the folder you are looking for, let us know >>>>>>>>>>>>>> which >>>>>>>>>>>>>> folder it is and how you navigated to the folder on your old >>>>>>>>>>>>>> machine. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Carlo >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/05/2012, at 17:46 , Rick Armstrong wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In an attempt to copy a folder approx 50Gb using target disk >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from a >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> G4 to and iMac and then abandoning the attempt because I wasn't >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sure >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what I was doing am not able to find that folder on the >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> original HD >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> anywhere. 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