So you now have a completed full back up eh Bill. How long did it take? I had similar issues to you Bill a little while back and it is certainly a relief to know it is all in order.
Regards Pete On 07/10/2012, at 1:35 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote: > Please uncross fingers. Everything working fine and points about second > back noted. Thanks again Ronni!! > > Bill > On 07/10/2012, at 12:01 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: > >> Yes, Fingers crossed Bill, >> >> Ah Daniel, we work as a good team on WAMUG ;-) >> >> Bill, >> Keep a watch that the external drive wakes up when TM is due to backup and >> that it doesn't loose connection. >> >> Do you have Time Machine Buddy Widget installed? If not I recommend you do, >> so you can keep an eye on what is happening with TM. >> I always install it for clients when setting up Time Machine for them. >> I am (as you probably know) fairly pedantic with making sure my clients (& >> WAMUG members) have a good "Backup Strategy". >> I also show them how (& leave my Tutorials showing them) to check their TM >> backups by "Entering Time Machine" and "How to Restore a file or >> application" from within the TM 'Star Wars' interface. >> >> "Time Machine Buddy organises and displays the systems logs generated by >> Apple's Time Machine Backup. With this widget you will be able to quickly >> tell what is happening behind the scenes for the backup in progress or any >> previous backups. >> Time Machine Buddy organises and displays the systems logs generated by >> Apple's Time Machine Backup. With this widget you will be able to quickly >> tell what is happening behind the scenes for the backup in progress or any >> previous backups." >> >> WHAT'S NEW >> Release v1.07 >> - Mountain Lion Support >> - Please REBOOT machine after install. 10.8 caches widgets. >> Release v1.06 >> -Lion Support >> -Performance improvements >> -Remove freezes on large logs >> >> <http://www.bluedog.com.au/default/Time_Machine_Buddy.html> >> >> I would feel easier if you had a better backup strategy and were not just >> relying on Time Machine for backups. >> <http://ronnibrown.net/tutorials/backup/index.html> >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> RONNI BROWN >> MAC CONSULTANT >> >> email: supp...@ronnibrown.net >> Website: ronnibrown.net >> >> On 07/10/2012, at 11:18 AM, Daniel Kerr <dan...@macwizardry.com.au> wrote: >> >>> Fingers crossed :) >>> Ronni did all the work, so she can have the thanks,..lol. >>> I was just adding a little idea :o) >>> >>> Enjoy your Sunday! >>> >>> Kind regards >>> Daniel >>> >>> Sent from my iPhone 4s >>> >>> --- >>> Daniel Kerr >>> MacWizardry >>> >>> Phone: 0414 795 960 >>> Email: <daniel AT macwizardry.com.au> >>> Web: <http://www.macwizardry.com.au> >>> >>> >>> **For everything Apple** >>> >>> On 07/10/2012, at 11:15 AM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>> >>>> Thanks so much Ronni ( and Daniel) >>>> >>>> I have now erased the Seagate and been through the instruction PDF and >>>> restored the Time Machine operation. All looks OK thus far, and I did >>>> check the cables. Fingers crossed. >>>> >>>> Bill >>>> On 06/10/2012, at 7:15 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hi Bill, >>>>> >>>>> I have to take a break now and put some food into my body. I'll email >>>>> you offlist my tutorial "How to Format & Partition External Drive For >>>>> Time Machine ", so you can Format the external drive. It is not worth >>>>> trying to recover anything from the external drive as it has never >>>>> completed a backup and there will be some corruption probably an >>>>> "inProgress" file. >>>>> >>>>> In the mean time as I mentioned to Peter, in case we find your external >>>>> drive is faulty even after you have formatted it correctly, I suggest if >>>>> you have another external drive formatted correctly for your Intel Mac >>>>> that is large enough to hold your whole system that you use SuperDuper or >>>>> CCC to do a bootable backup of your computer. >>>>> If you don't have another external drive to do this, backup your >>>>> important files to a USB Thumb Drive or to a disc. >>>>> >>>>> I'll email the Tutorial to you now before I take a break. >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 6:34 PM, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com> wrote: >>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 6:19 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>> Ronni, >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The step 3 is Mac OS Extended (Journaled). >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The list in Disk Ute left window is as follows: >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Left flush 500.11 GB Seagate etc ( orange icon) >>>>>> This is the one I want you to click on to see the Partition Map Scheme >>>>>> please. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> indent Bill Parker's Back Up ( Time Mach icon) >>>>>> >>>>>> This is step 3 and it is "Mac OS Extended (Journaled) >>>>>> >>>>>>> Left flush Superdrive [CD icon] (greyed out) >>>>>> That is your Optical Super Drive (your DVD/CD drive) >>>>>> That has nothing to do with this. >>>>>> >>>>>> Let me know the Partition Map Scheme please. >>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> The last back up stopped because "the disk may have been ejected" >>>>>>> That's in Window 1. In Window 2 I have the standard message that >>>>>>> appears after you have pulled a USB connection the "improper" way. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> All the while the disk has stayed plugged in, but it does NOT show the >>>>>>> activity LED as "on" and the disk is not spinning. >>>>>>> >>>>>>> And now I am worried. I have a magazine ready for publication and I'll >>>>>>> need my files for reference during the layout stage. Maybe I should >>>>>>> burn a CD? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Thanks for your help of course!! >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 5:47 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> No2 - Make sure you select (click on) the External Drive icon then >>>>>>>> you will see what Partition Map Scheme it is formatted as (not the >>>>>>>> second name (volume) of the external drive which is your TM volume) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Your Time Machine volume is in Step 3 and must be "Mac OS Extended >>>>>>>> (Journaled) >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Is your Time Machine volume named "Super drive" or is that the name of >>>>>>>> the external drive? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> The icons change as you have mentioned below, that is correct. >>>>>>>> When the USB Drive is connected the icon on the desktop will show as >>>>>>>> USB >>>>>>>> When TM works it will show as TM icon >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Do you mean there are TWO icons for the external drive showing on the >>>>>>>> Desktop? >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> I need to know if the External Drive is formatted correctly. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Once I know if the External Drive is formatted correctly for use with >>>>>>>> Time Machine, I can then help you sort the problem. >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 5:18 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> I have been away from the computer for a while. The back up is >>>>>>>>> running and about 50% completed. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Done 1,2 and 3. I do not see "Partition Map Scheme: GUID Partition >>>>>>>>> Table". the second level is called "Super drive but its greyed out. >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> The back up that was going has now stopped with no error message and >>>>>>>>> the icon has reverted to to the to the Orange (USB? graphic) whereas >>>>>>>>> the image on the desktop is still Time Machine! >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 4:21 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Just to first make sure the external drive is Formatted and >>>>>>>>>> Partitioned correctly for Time Machine, please do this: >>>>>>>>>> 1. Connect the external drive to your computer >>>>>>>>>> 2. Open Disk Utility >>>>>>>>>> In the left hand column, click on the drive icon for the name of >>>>>>>>>> your external drive. >>>>>>>>>> (Make sure you click on the first icon, not the second level volume >>>>>>>>>> icon.) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> At the bottom do you see "Partition Map Scheme: GUID Partition >>>>>>>>>> Table"? >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> 3. Then Select the second level volume (your TM volume) >>>>>>>>>> At the bottom do you have Format: Mac OS Extended (Journaled) >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 4:02 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> wrote: >>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The ext Hd looks OK with Disk Utility and I see its icon on the >>>>>>>>>>> desktop. As soon as I connected it, it started the back-up ( as if >>>>>>>>>>> there had never been a back) Indeed I erased the disk some weeks >>>>>>>>>>> ago, and only then did I start seeing the DT icon. It was Orange >>>>>>>>>>> without the Time Machine logo. Once Time machine runs, the DT icon >>>>>>>>>>> changes. >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> The error message (after transfer of about 100GB of 250 -or so) is >>>>>>>>>>> "cannot complete back-up." It shuts down Time Machine and then I >>>>>>>>>>> get all sorts of odd message saying "you didn't eject the disk >>>>>>>>>>> correctly" ( I did). >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 3:49 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> I hope you have been backing up some other way, perhaps bootable >>>>>>>>>>>> backups. >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Ok, is the external drive is formatted correctly? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Mac OS Extended (Journaled) >>>>>>>>>>>> Select the type of partition you want to use: >>>>>>>>>>>> GUID Partition Table - for Intel-based Macs >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> If so: >>>>>>>>>>>> Can you select the drive in System Preferences > Time Machine? >>>>>>>>>>>> When you try to backup what error do you receive please? >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 3:41 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 3:33 PM, Ronni Brown wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Bill, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> A bit more information please. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Were you successfully backing up using Time Machine to this >>>>>>>>>>>>>> external drive in Snow Leopard? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I was. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> How long have since you installed Lion? >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> When Mt Lion was issued. >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Are you saying you have NEVER successfully backed up using TM to >>>>>>>>>>>>>> this external drive in Lion? >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> 'Friad I am >>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers, >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ronni >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 17" MacBook Pro 2.3GHz Quad-Core i7 “Thunderbolt" >>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2.3GHz / 8GB / 750GB @ 7200rpm HD >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> OS X 10.8.2 Mountain Lion >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7 Ultimate (under sufferance) >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 06/10/2012, at 3:11 PM, Bill Parker <ren...@westnet.com.au> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote: >>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Since I installed Lion, and now 10.7.5 and supp update I have >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not been able to back up/ >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The ext. HD is a Seagate Goflex - about 15 months old. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I suspect the ext HD, but not sure. For a while before >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> installing the 10.7.4 to 5 update, the disk was not even >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recognised by the laptop. Tried repair etc etc. No luck. >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Bill >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Dr Bill Parker >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ren...@westnet.com.au >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deliberate, contrived and dishonest – but the myth – >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> > > Dr Bill Parker > ren...@westnet.com.au > The great enemy of truth is very often not the lie – deliberate, contrived > and dishonest – but the myth – persistent, persuasive, and unrealistic. > > > > -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- > Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> > Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> > Settings & Unsubscribe - > <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml> Settings & Unsubscribe - <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>