Hi Graham, I thought you did NOT want to use 'iCloud Drive' - that you were asking help to get your Documents & Desktop files/folders back to the original setup - to having all your documents & desktop files saved in your Home Finder folders on your Mac - NOT stored in 'iCloud Drive' in the cloud!
But I now read from your reply below that you have been, and are using 'iCloud Drive'? Using 'iCloud Drive' & Documents and Desktop syncing, your Documents and Desktop folders were moved to 'iCloud Drive’! They are stored/kept in 'iCloud Drive'. Read this to understand how iCloud - 'iCloud Drive' works: iCloud Drive - Documents & Desktop syncing in macOS Sierra 10.12 <http://www.apple.com/icloud/icloud-drive/ <http://www.apple.com/icloud/icloud-drive/>> I asked three question below which you did not answer, so we don’t even know if all your documents have been uploaded to iCloud - 'iCloud Drive’. I don’t think I can really help you anymore as I don’t understand what you have done or are actually wanting to achieve? Cheers, Ronni 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage macOS Sierra 10.12 > On 1 Oct. 2016, at 6:49 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au> wrote: > > Hi Ronni, > > Thanks for getting back to me. > > I no longer have folders under Favorites in Finder called “Desktop" and > “Documents” and have been unable to find anything on web about how to put 2 > new folders there. Can you help? > > Another thing - when I open a Word file I’m working on in iCloud Drive, it > opens up fine but when I right click on the file name at the top of the > screen, it shows its location still as if no change to iCloud has occurred > i.e. under my previous User “Documents” folder in Favorites. There is no > reference to iCloud Drive (where I have to go to open it in Finder). > > Weird. > > Cheers, > > Graham >> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 1:57 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com >> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >> >> Hi Graham, >> >> The documents that were originally on your startup drive are still there >> after turning on syncing. >> They have just been made invisible. >> >> A) Are you sure all your documents & desktop files have been uploaded to >> iCloud Drive? >> B) Did you turn on “Optimize Mac Storage” under iCloud Drive settings? If so >> Turn it OFF. >> C) And you are NOT wanting to use iCloud Drive, and you want your Documents >> and Desktop files back on your Mac? >> >> NOTE: I’m assuming you have a bootable backup containing your Documents & >> Desktop folders ‘Prior’ to installing macOS Sierra and turning iCloud Drive >> ON and enabling iCloud sync for ‘Documents and Desktop’. >> >> If all above is the case and you definitely have all your Documents and >> Desktop and data backed up. >> In case you need to manually copy the data back over from your backup if you >> lose it. >> —— >> When iCloud sync for ‘Documents and Desktop’ is enabled, macOS simply moves >> the folders to the iCloud Drive folder. >> When you uncheck the Documents and Desktop settings, it breaks that link and >> creates new folders, but leaves your folders and files on iCloud Drive. - >> The new folders are empty. >> >> So what I would suggest you try: >> 1. Go to your iCloud Drive and move the files back from the Documents and >> Desktop folders in the iCloud drive to the Documents and Desktop folders in >> your User home folder. >> >> This is expressed in the dialog that shows up, but the wording is not very >> clear. >> >> Check all your documents and desktop files are in your Finder Home Folders >> on your Mac. >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >>> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 8:57 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au >>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote: >>> >>> Hi ronni, >>> >>> Looking at this link >>> https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7680027?start=0&tstart=0 >>> <https://discussions.apple.com/thread/7680027?start=0&tstart=0> makes me >>> think that my problem is not so easily resolved by unticking the Desktop >>> and Documents folder in iCloud under System Preferences. >>> >>> By the way - I never even ticked the Desktop and Documents box under iCloud >>> at any time - that was how things were after installing Sierra. >>> >>> Cheers, >>> >>> Graham >>>> On 30 Sep. 2016, at 8:39 am, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au >>>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote: >>>> >>>> Thanks for that Ronni. >>>> >>>> If I go to iCloud in System Preferences and untick iCloud Drive, the >>>> message is “If you continue, documents on your Desktop and in your >>>> Documents folder will be visible in iCloud Drive only”. >>>> >>>> That is exactly what I do not want. >>>> >>>> I just want to be where I was before Sierra - where my Documents folder is >>>> in Finder under Favorites and not under iCloud section. >>>> >>>> I’ve assumed that the only place you can turn iCloud Drive on or off is >>>> under System Preferences - iCloud. And then I get the message referred to >>>> above. >>>> >>>> I’d appreciate any further assistance you could give me. >>>> >>>> Thanks, >>>> >>>> Graham >>>>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 8:00 pm, Ronni Brown <ro...@mac.com >>>>> <mailto:ro...@mac.com>> wrote: >>>>> >>>>> Hello Graham & Michael, >>>>> >>>>> You DON’T have to use "iCloud Drive" unless you want to! >>>>> The first thing I do after installing a OS X update & iOS update is check >>>>> that iCloud Drive is NOT ON… & turn if OFF if it is. >>>>> " iCloud Drive” is turned OFF on all my iDevices and computers. >>>>> I use iCloud but NOT “iCloud Drive”! >>>>> >>>>> Sierra adds a new iCloud Drive feature where you can integrate your >>>>> Desktop and Documents folders with iCloud Drive. >>>>> New! Documents and Desktop Folder Syncing >>>>> Sierra adds a new iCloud Drive feature where you can integrate your >>>>> Desktop and Documents folders with iCloud Drive. >>>>> You may want to keep it OFF until you’ve had time to consider it’s pros >>>>> and cons— >>>>> — >>>>> Have a read of the 'iCloud Drive FAQ' >>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201104 >>>>> <https://support.apple.com/en-au/HT201104>> >>>>> >>>>> Use iCloud Drive to store documents, presentations, spreadsheets, PDFs, >>>>> images, you name it, on Apple’s servers. Everything you save here is >>>>> immediately synced and available on other compatible Apple devices you’ve >>>>> set up. >>>>> >>>>> That means you can work on a document on your iPad and then open it later >>>>> on your Mac. In many cases, you can also work with it on the iCloud.com >>>>> <https://www.icloud.com/> Web site. >>>>> >>>>> Apple’s iCloud Drive stores your files in the cloud, making it easy to >>>>> access them on any of your Apple devices (or a Windows PC)—so long as the >>>>> device has a fast enough Internet connection. >>>>> >>>>> Drag files to and from the iCloud Drive folder in your Mac’s Finder, and >>>>> iCloud Drive syncs them across your devices so they’re always up to date. >>>>> ============== >>>>> Re: Sierra ——— macOS Sierra 10.12: >>>>> I have been running macOS Sierra 10.12 successfully on both my MacBook >>>>> Pro and MacBook Air, without any problems at all. >>>>> But - I did follow my normal safety ‘Prepare' before upgrading any major >>>>> version of OS X. >>>>> I updated all applications that had Sierra updates, did CCC bootable >>>>> backups / Time Machine as in my Post to WAMUG members 23 Sept. 2016 at >>>>> 8:15am - Subject: Sierra >>>>> >>>>> Prepare to upgrade: >>>>> 1. Make sure your computer can run Sierra. >>>>> 2. BACKUP! - BACKUP! >>>>> 3. Make sure key software is up to date, and remove clutter that could >>>>> interfere with the upgrade. >>>>> 4. Decide which upgrade strategy is best for you >>>>> etc etc etc as per my previous post. >>>>> >>>>> I really like Sierra it is a very good upgrade. One of features I find >>>>> extremely useful is ‘Handoff’ >>>>> "Use Handoff to move seamlessly between your Apple devices. For instance, >>>>> say you start to write an email message on your Mac and then have to rush >>>>> out the door for work. While you wait at the train station, you can >>>>> finish composing the message on your iPhone. Or, say you start reading an >>>>> article in Safari on your iPad and then want to finish on your iMac at >>>>> the office. >>>>> Handoff lets you pick up where you left off when using Calendar, >>>>> Contacts, Keynote, Mail, Maps, Messages, Notes, Numbers, Pages, >>>>> Reminders, Safari, and some third-party apps in Sierra and iOS 10” >>>>> >>>>> Cheers, >>>>> Ronni >>>>> >>>>> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >>>>> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >>>>> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >>>>> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >>>>> >>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12 >>>>> >>>>>> On 29 Sep. 2016, at 1:18 pm, Graham Rabe <gra...@rabe.com.au >>>>>> <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au>> wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve upgraded to Sierra and all of my data in my previous “Documents” >>>>>> folder previously on my hard drive (in Finder under Documents”) is now >>>>>> only available in iCloud (where there is now a “Documents” folder). >>>>>> There is no longer a “Documents” folder listed anywhere on my hard >>>>>> drive. >>>>>> >>>>>> I’ve gone to System Preferences - iCloud and see that I can change that >>>>>> scenario (under Options). >>>>>> >>>>>> What I can’t figure out is that at the bottom of that Options box it >>>>>> states that “The full contents of iCloud Drive will be stored on this >>>>>> Mac if you have enough space. Older documents will be stored only in >>>>>> iCloud when space is needed.” >>>>>> >>>>>> I have more than enough space on my hard drive. >>>>>> >>>>>> In the Finder menu, when I select “Go” for “Documents” - it shows the >>>>>> documents in the iCloud section. >>>>>> >>>>>> My question is: where in Finder do I find all of my documents on my hard >>>>>> drive? Where are they “stored”? >>>>>> >>>>>> Any views/recommendations about allowing all documents to be stored only >>>>>> on iCloud under this new regime would be appreciated. What and the hell >>>>>> happens when iCloud bombs out/is hacked etc etc? And if I use this >>>>>> iCloud method of saving all my data previously stored on the hard drive >>>>>> under the “Documents” folder, what work is my local Time Machine able to >>>>>> do by way of backing up (and/or other external drives that I use for >>>>>> backup backups for that matter). >>>>>> >>>>>> Thanks, >>>>>> >>>>>> Graham Rabe >>>>>> >>>>>> iMac late 2012 >>>>>> macOS Sierra 10.12 >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >>>>> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml >>>>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>> >>>>> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml >>>>> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>> >>>>> Settings & Unsubscribe - >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >>>>> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>> >>>> >>>> Graham Rabe | Barrister & Solicitor | Commercial Litigation Consultant & >>>> Mediator >>>> Suite 94, 50 St Georges Terrace, Perth WA 6000 >>>> M: +61 417 949 825 >>>> E: gra...@rabe.com.au <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au> >>>> Skype: graham.rabe >>>> Web: www.rabe.com.au <http://www.rabe.com.au/> >>>> >>>> This e-mail communication and any attachment is intended only for the >>>> addressee and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential material. >>>> If you are not the addressee or intended recipient of the communication, >>>> please notify the sender immediately by return e-mail. 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To the maximum >>> extent permitted by the law, the sender does not accept liability for any >>> errors or omissions in the contents of this e-mail communication >>> >> >> Cheers, >> Ronni >> >> 13-inch MacBook Air (April 2014) >> 1.7GHz Dual-Core Intel Core i7, Turbo Boost to 3.3GHz >> 8GB 1600MHz LPDDR3 SDRAM >> 512GB PCIe-based Flash Storage >> >> macOS Sierra 10.12 >> >> -- The WA Macintosh User Group Mailing List -- >> Archives - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/archives.shtml>> >> Guidelines - <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml >> <http://www.wamug.org.au/mailinglist/guidelines.shtml>> >> Settings & Unsubscribe - >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug >> <http://lists.wamug.org.au/listinfo/wamug.org.au-wamug>> > > Graham Rabe | Barrister & Solicitor | Commercial Litigation Consultant & > Mediator > Suite 94, 50 St Georges Terrace, Perth WA 6000 > M: +61 417 949 825 > E: gra...@rabe.com.au <mailto:gra...@rabe.com.au> > Skype: graham.rabe > Web: www.rabe.com.au <http://www.rabe.com.au/> > > This e-mail communication and any attachment is intended only for the > addressee and may contain legally privileged and/or confidential material. 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