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From: rod/christine <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
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Sent: Saturday, July 27, 2002 4:38 PM
Subject: RE: {W&P} SV: SV: SV: SV: Common Sense


Rod wrote answering Al:
> ===
> 
> Sheez, should they come to your state and chop down EVERY tree?  Better 
> forest management would be to let the forest burn when it is nature 
> doing it (lightning).
> 
> The "weekend" camper (female no less!) who started the Sequoia one in 
> California was a nutjob for even playing with a lighter or matches!  
> What the hell was she thinking?  Must have been a public school 
> education, huh? - you think so?
> 
> So much of the western part of USA is owned by the gov't (public lands) 
> and managed quite poorly over the years.  I don't think it can be blamed 
> on the "leftists" (whatever that means).  We are near the Little 
> Missouri National Grasslands - and it is "fairly well" managed, but 
> always is back-and-forth - depending on whether a Jimmy Carter (goofy) 
> or a Ronny Reagan (senile) is inhabitating the Executive Branch.
> 
> Up here, it is the levels of the six main-stem dams, that hold the 
> waters of the upper parts (States) of the Missouri River that are bones 
> of contention.  It all depends on the winter snow packs in Montana - the 
> past couple years have been way below normal - bigtime!  The lower parts 
> (States) want the water for barge traffic (navigation) and the upper 
> parts (States) want it for irrigation and tourism.  They generate 
> electricity too!  The rivers are losing all their native fish species - 
> they are "locked" into the areas between the dam sites.
> 
> The Indian Tribes lost prime bottomlands (many, many beautiful trees 
> too) when the water began backing up.  When the barges (1830's) first 
> began coming up the Missouri and needed firewood to power the barges - 
> the trees (forests) along the river were chopped down and never 
> replaced... so all the animals had no "cover" (nesting) and many species 
> simply went extinct!
> 
> My opinion is that chopping down entire forests is sheer stupidity.  
> Better management would be to maybe take 5-10 percent of the forest and 
> leave the rest intact.  Another 10 years or so, and come an take a 
> different portion of the forest.  It could be done without the gov't 
> always building roads at taxpayer expense!
> 
> Helicopters are a cost-efficient way of selectively taking out trees - 
> one-by-one.  This is taking place in parts of Idaho, Montana, 
> Washington, British Columbia, etc.  I'm sure it is done in other parts 
> of the world (earth) too.
> 
> Finally, the Hemp Plant is the answer to the paper problem.  But the 
> rightwingers are afraid that some kids might smoke some - and go crazy 
> and have to be put on Ritalin.  The Hearst Corporation (newsprint) is 
> always putting out scare stories on marijuana (maryjane) & twisting it 
> wit hemp as being some sort of devils weed, and such nonsense.  Such is 
> the life and times in 21st century America.
> 
> 
> Rod
> 

I think that this is quite a good analysis of the problem. As far as US goes. The 
terrible thing is that deforresting is going on world wide and in a scale that's 
horyfying. South America (the Amazon Basin) All the islands like Sumatra, Jawa and the 
others are deforeted in a terrible speed without any atempt to replant. The different 
kind of animals dependent on the rainforrest, from Orangutang and down the scale of 
developement, like birds, lizzards and all the insects soon have nowhere to hide. Many 
of those living things are not even discovered yet, and we will never konow what we 
are missing. Many of the plants are maybe hiding substances good for making medecine 
for humans. Nature has usually already the solution to most problems, It has been 
around much longer than the humans, but we will never know as they will be extinct, 
due to greedy forresters before we can find them.

All this is done by deforresting, taking all and leave nothing to protect the ground 
out of greed, and as you say, Ron, it's stupid, but the mighty short time proffit 
rules. Your idea of taking 10% is old and was practised here in Sweeden for many 
years. But the proffit suffer. It's complicated. Then they found that there was better 
proffit of strip forresting a piece at the time. However the planting of new trees 
have been done. If they don't take care of replanting the state comes down on them 
like a ton of bricks. The landscape looks funny, but is not left un attended, at least.

I'm always hoping that people will get more and more intelligence, but sometimes I 
think that people are just getting dumber. I'm no genius but I still feel lonely. To 
be a genius must be a very lonley life. It seems that the rule for too many of the 
forresters is: Big bucks to day fast and as easy as possible, after us - who cares.

Claes
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