Maybe this is a completely different problem? Maybe we should ask,
what is the main reasons why classes get extended or monkey-patched.
Maybe
there even isn't so many users who have been doing that or do we know
that for certain that there really is?

I, myself, have been doing these only if there's something broken or
not working well and after that i have been trying (and will try even
more) to push
these changes into main Watir's codebase.

Jarmo

On May 7, 10:16 pm, "b...@pettichord.com" <bpettich...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> The biggest change in Vapir is that class names have been
> systematically changed. We've been reluctant to make these changes in
> Watir because it would lead to a lot of compatibility problems for
> people who have extended the existing Watir classes. I'm happy to
> reconsider if there really is a demand for this kind of change.
>
> If I was starting from scratch and didn't have any legacy users, I'd
> probably propose making most of the changes that Ethan made. But I
> have found that Watir users have very little stomach for introducing
> incompatible changes.
>
> If there is stuff you like in Vapir that is compatible, please let us
> know.
>
> Bret
>
> On May 5, 2:39 pm, Tim Koopmans <tim.ko...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>
>
>
>
> > This makes no sense to me. Shouldn't we just merge important changes  
> > like modal support into Watir main? Or am I missing something? Is  
> > vapir a silent protest of sorts?
>
> > Regards,
> > Tim
>
> > On 06/05/2010, at 3:47, Ethan <notet...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > Dear Watir people,
> > > I am happy to announce the release of the Vapir library, which is a
> > > fork of Watir and FireWatir.
>
> > > It is documented primarily at the github wiki at
> > >http://wiki.github.com/vapir/vapir/
> > > Documentation is sorely lacking at the moment, and improving it is my
> > > highest priority, but putting the code out for people to use preceded
> > > that.
>
> > > Links to other aspects of the forked project are listed 
> > > athttp://vapir.org/
>
> > > The API is in most cases the same, with some changes where I felt it
> > > was best; these are enumerated at
> > >http://wiki.github.com/vapir/vapir/differences-from-watir-api
>
> > > It is a release candidate currently, and can be installed using the
> > > --pre flag to rubygems (rubygems 1.3.6 is required; run gem update
> > > --system if you are on an earlier version).
> > > gem install --pre vapir-firefox
> > > gem install --pre vapir-ie
>
> > > Major improvements over Watir are:
> > > - Modal dialog API which is (mostly) consistent between IE and Firefox
> > > -http://wiki.github.com/vapir/vapir/modal-dialogs
> > > - Unified codebase for both Firefox and IE interaction - basically,
> > > everything that works in IE works in Firefox as well, which is not the
> > > case with FireWatir.
> > > - Many bug fixes and feature enhancements for issues in Watir's issue
> > > tracker, which will be documented more thoroughly on the wiki in the
> > > coming days.
>
> > > I would encourage any questions or discussion to go to Vapir's mailing
> > > list, not Watir's. The forked project is intended to stand on its own,
> > > separate from the Watir library due to a great deal of changes in the
> > > codebase which make it to some degree (a small degree, hopefully)
> > > incompatible. Support will be on Vapir's mailing list at
> > >http://groups.google.com/group/vapir
>
> > > -Ethan
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