Fine with me.

On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 5:13 PM, Michael MacFadden <
[email protected]> wrote:

> I think we have reached a consensus on the clean check in approach.  We
> should be able to mention that we have decided on the approach in the
> report.  Should we also set a target date for doing the migration?  I am
> more than happy to do the migration.  I think we should give ourselves 2
> weeks to actually move the code over, just to be safe.  This way we can
> discuss any organization or structural issues that may come up.
>
> If we have a method and a date, then I think we have a good plan to put in
> the board report.
>
> ~Michael
>
>
> On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>
> >
> >
> > On Monday, September 12, 2011 1:12 PM, "Jasper Horn"
> > <[email protected]> wrote:
> >> Upayavira wrote:
> >>> Right, the source code is the project's most valuable possession. The
> >>> ASF as a charitable organisation exists to produce software, therefore
> >>> it must be in control of its main asset, the asset it exists to create!
> >>
> >> Talk about "control", "possessions" and "assets" doesn't sound much
> >> like Open Source to me...
> >
> > All software is owned (with the exception of public domain). Open source
> > software makes strong use of copyright law, which is all about
> > 'ownership'. Open source isn't about ownership, it is about licensing.
> > Apache 'owns' the code (actually, owns the copyright on the collection,
> > that is made up of individual parts which are owned by the respective
> > authors), but then, in keeping with its non-profit mission, it makes
> > that code available with a very liberal license to anyone who wants to
> > use it.
> >
> > As a part of that, people have come to trust Apache software, and that
> > needs some protecting - making sure that we keep to an approach that is
> > worthy of that trust. So yes, Apache does protect its code. Apache does
> > protect its trademarks. It is all Apache exists for. It protects its
> > code and the methods used to create it so that it *can* make it
> > available to the public, for no charge.
> >
> >>> There's scope to host code on git on Apache infrastructure, but that
> >>> requires volunteers to assist with a deployment.
> >>
> >> What would need to be done?
> >
> > You can join the [email protected] mailing list and ask there. I'm
> > not so sure about all the details. But bear in mind that the kind of
> > install that Apache needs is more substantial than most. It needs a
> > workflow that effectively tracks code's origins (SVN does this well,
> > with git, as I understand it, there are ways to work around this). But,
> > to be honest, I'm not sure what the current road blocks are other than
> > volunteer time.
> >
> > Upayavira
>
>

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