Hmm this is interesting.  The only reason this would cause me to think we 
should hold of is that we know that Hg -> Git does save the history.

What does everyone think?

~Michael

On Sep 24, 2011, at 9:31 AM, Christian Grobmeier wrote:

> Guys,
> 
> don't want to spread to much confusion now.... but just heard of this
> in another mail:
> 
> [1] - 
> http://mail-archives.apache.org/mod_mbox/couchdb-dev/201109.mbox/%[email protected]%3E
> [2] - https://twitter.com/#!/davisp/status/117446331714383872
> 
> Seems like GIT is allowed - but have no proof for it
> Mercurial is not GIT - but very GITish. Maybe this is an option for
> you? If yes, you should ask at infra if that works or not.
> 
> Cheers
> Christian
> 
> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 4:20 PM, Michael MacFadden
> <[email protected]> wrote:
>> Yuri,
>> 
>> I wanted to coordinate with you on this.  Is there a date/time that works 
>> well for you.  I have a least one code review I owe you.  Would you prefer 
>> to get the couple outstanding code reviews completed so you can get that 
>> code checked in before the move.
>> 
>> Basically, we need to establish a mini code freeze.
>> 
>> ~Michael
>> 
>> On Sep 18, 2011, at 11:43 PM, Yuri Z wrote:
>> 
>>> We postponed the move until 28-th Sep as by Michael's request.  The Wiki 
>>> for PMC was updated accordingly on 13-th Sep.
>>> BTW, @Michael, when are you planning to complete the move?
>>> 
>>> On Mon, Sep 19, 2011 at 8:25 AM, Doug <[email protected]> wrote:
>>> arc:~ douglasl$ svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave/
>>> branches/
>>> site/
>>> tags/
>>> trunk/
>>> arc:~ douglasl$ svn ls https://svn.apache.org/repos/asf/incubator/wave/trunk
>>> arc:~ douglasl$
>>> 
>>> ...?
>>> 
>>> ~
>>> Doug.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 11:22 PM, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <[email protected]>wrote:
>>> 
>>>> +1 good to see some progress here!
>>>> I am really looking forward to a first release :-)
>>>> 
>>>> On Tue, Sep 13, 2011 at 4:13 PM, Michael MacFadden
>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>> I think we have reached a consensus on the clean check in approach.  We
>>>> should be able to mention that we have decided on the approach in the
>>>> report.  Should we also set a target date for doing the migration?  I am
>>>> more than happy to do the migration.  I think we should give ourselves 2
>>>> weeks to actually move the code over, just to be safe.  This way we can
>>>> discuss any organization or structural issues that may come up.
>>>>> 
>>>>> If we have a method and a date, then I think we have a good plan to put
>>>> in the board report.
>>>>> 
>>>>> ~Michael
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Sep 12, 2011, at 2:58 PM, Upayavira wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Monday, September 12, 2011 1:12 PM, "Jasper Horn"
>>>>>> <[email protected]> wrote:
>>>>>>> Upayavira wrote:
>>>>>>>> Right, the source code is the project's most valuable possession. The
>>>>>>>> ASF as a charitable organisation exists to produce software, therefore
>>>>>>>> it must be in control of its main asset, the asset it exists to
>>>> create!
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Talk about "control", "possessions" and "assets" doesn't sound much
>>>>>>> like Open Source to me...
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> All software is owned (with the exception of public domain). Open source
>>>>>> software makes strong use of copyright law, which is all about
>>>>>> 'ownership'. Open source isn't about ownership, it is about licensing.
>>>>>> Apache 'owns' the code (actually, owns the copyright on the collection,
>>>>>> that is made up of individual parts which are owned by the respective
>>>>>> authors), but then, in keeping with its non-profit mission, it makes
>>>>>> that code available with a very liberal license to anyone who wants to
>>>>>> use it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> As a part of that, people have come to trust Apache software, and that
>>>>>> needs some protecting - making sure that we keep to an approach that is
>>>>>> worthy of that trust. So yes, Apache does protect its code. Apache does
>>>>>> protect its trademarks. It is all Apache exists for. It protects its
>>>>>> code and the methods used to create it so that it *can* make it
>>>>>> available to the public, for no charge.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> There's scope to host code on git on Apache infrastructure, but that
>>>>>>>> requires volunteers to assist with a deployment.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What would need to be done?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> You can join the [email protected] mailing list and ask there. I'm
>>>>>> not so sure about all the details. But bear in mind that the kind of
>>>>>> install that Apache needs is more substantial than most. It needs a
>>>>>> workflow that effectively tracks code's origins (SVN does this well,
>>>>>> with git, as I understand it, there are ways to work around this). But,
>>>>>> to be honest, I'm not sure what the current road blocks are other than
>>>>>> volunteer time.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Upayavira
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
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