Would Meson’s dependency wrapping capabilities be a viable solution here? I 
think that most of Weston’s dependencies that have aggressive version 
requirements are themselves also Meson projects.

The Weston CI configuration builds a bunch of its dependencies (Mesa, libdrm, 
libwayland …) manually. I wonder why Meson wrapping was not used for this?

-Matt

From: Hoosier, Matt <matt.hoos...@garmin.com>
Sent: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 7:44 AM
To: Daniel Stone <dan...@fooishbar.org>; Pekka Paalanen 
<pekka.paala...@collabora.com>
Cc: s...@cmpwn.com; cont...@emersion.fr; Marius Vlad 
<marius.v...@collabora.com>; wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org
Subject: Re: Ways to test Weston during development (Re: Full-motion zero-copy 
screen capture in Weston)

Thanks, everybody.

After some trial and error, I find that if I install seatd in the host and the 
seatd dev package in the Toolbox container and I then symlink the host seatd 
socket into /tmp on the container, Weston seems to start up okay on my physical 
KMS connectors:

user@host:~$ toolbox enter
…

user@toolbox:~$ sudo ln -s /run/host/run/seatd.socket /run/
user@toolbox:~$ weston --backend=drm

-Matt

From: Daniel Stone <dan...@fooishbar.org<mailto:dan...@fooishbar.org>>
Date: Wednesday, June 5, 2024 at 5:07 AM
To: Pekka Paalanen 
<pekka.paala...@collabora.com<mailto:pekka.paala...@collabora.com>>
Cc: "Hoosier, Matt" <matt.hoos...@garmin.com<mailto:matt.hoos...@garmin.com>>, 
"s...@cmpwn.com<mailto:s...@cmpwn.com>" 
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"cont...@emersion.fr<mailto:cont...@emersion.fr>" 
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"wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org<mailto:wayland-devel@lists.freedesktop.org>"
 
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Subject: Re: Ways to test Weston during development (Re: Full-motion zero-copy 
screen capture in Weston)

Hi, On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 09: 09, Pekka Paalanen <pekka. paalanen@ collabora. 
com> wrote: > On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 20: 33: 48 +0000 > "Hoosier, Matt" <Matt. 
Hoosier@ garmin. com> wrote: > > Tactical question: I somehow missed until


Hi,



On Wed, 5 Jun 2024 at 09:09, Pekka Paalanen

<pekka.paala...@collabora.com<mailto:pekka.paala...@collabora.com>> wrote:

> On Tue, 4 Jun 2024 20:33:48 +0000

> "Hoosier, Matt" <matt.hoos...@garmin.com<mailto:matt.hoos...@garmin.com>> 
> wrote:

> > Tactical question: I somehow missed until this point that the remote

> > and pipewire plugins will only run if the DRM backend is being used.

> >

> > But the DRM backend *really* doesn't want to start nowadays unless

> > you're running on a system with seatd and/or logind available.

> > Toolbox [1] is the de facto way to develop on bleeding edge copies of

> > components these days. But it logind and seatd aren't exposed into it.

> >

> > How do Weston people interactively develop on the Weston DRM backend

> > nowadays?

> >

> > [1] 
> > https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/toolbox/__;!!EJc4YC3iFmQ!X9PIq-FMYhremNjhMhD6uGHUdYcYt4QKcl5CIjQAi0gYX5IyFx63gK1QZDWepwQBxB3mu1WTvjK2SJoQzfs$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/docs.fedoraproject.org/en-US/fedora-silverblue/toolbox/__;!!EJc4YC3iFmQ!X9PIq-FMYhremNjhMhD6uGHUdYcYt4QKcl5CIjQAi0gYX5IyFx63gK1QZDWepwQBxB3mu1WTvjK2SJoQzfs$>

>

> I'm doing it old-school on my workstation, without any containers. What

> dependencies my distribution does not provide, I build and install

> manually into a prefix under $HOME:

>

> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2020/04/10/clean-reliable-setup-for-dependency-installation/__;!!EJc4YC3iFmQ!X9PIq-FMYhremNjhMhD6uGHUdYcYt4QKcl5CIjQAi0gYX5IyFx63gK1QZDWepwQBxB3mu1WTvjK2Y5E0gB4$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/www.collabora.com/news-and-blog/blog/2020/04/10/clean-reliable-setup-for-dependency-installation/__;!!EJc4YC3iFmQ!X9PIq-FMYhremNjhMhD6uGHUdYcYt4QKcl5CIjQAi0gYX5IyFx63gK1QZDWepwQBxB3mu1WTvjK2Y5E0gB4$>

>

> The "clean and reliable" is probably outdated in this era of

> containers...



Yes, doing it in containers is a little bit tricky since it's not

exactly the design case. Honestly, on my Silverblue systems, I just

install a bunch of relevant dependencies into the system image with

rpm-ostree, and have a pile of self-built dependencies in a local

prefix.



This might give you some insight however:

https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://github.com/containers/toolbox/issues/992__;!!EJc4YC3iFmQ!X9PIq-FMYhremNjhMhD6uGHUdYcYt4QKcl5CIjQAi0gYX5IyFx63gK1QZDWepwQBxB3mu1WTvjK21Tr-34M$<https://urldefense.com/v3/__https:/github.com/containers/toolbox/issues/992__;!!EJc4YC3iFmQ!X9PIq-FMYhremNjhMhD6uGHUdYcYt4QKcl5CIjQAi0gYX5IyFx63gK1QZDWepwQBxB3mu1WTvjK21Tr-34M$>



It probably needs some minor changes in Weston but does at least seem doable ...



Cheers,

Daniel

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