AFAIR, OLE has been around for quite a looooong time. With this patent, everything related to OLE is deemed to be violating the patent. This would include ActiveX, embedded RPC, Java - as you mentioned - but so is COM/DCOM, CORBA, RMI and any scripting language that's used over a distributed environment. Basically, if you develop a technology that executes code from a remote location you are violating the patent... It may seem crazy but this is what they mean.
CURL www.curl.com - developped in collaboration with SIR Tim Berner's Lee ), is also to be included. But think about .NET and the remote scripting concept Paul | -----Original Message----- | From: Mark Groen [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Sent: Tuesday, September 02, 2003 6:01 PM | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: watch this space: changes to IE? | | | <snip>From: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> | Sent: September 02, 2003 6:02 AM | Subject: [wdvltalk] Re: watch this space: changes to IE? | | | | Yea, most of our stuff is quite "plain" but we've written | intensive intranet type business applications using ms | technologies (some other departments used java plugins) and | it will influence those quite badly. :/ | | more money for developers though :) bad for business :( | </snip> | | I'm already getting email from the [EMAIL PROTECTED] | list showing prior art for the Eolas technology: | | "I don't know about anyone else, but there is SO much prior | art and information showing the obviousness and the | non-novelty of Mr. Doyle patent it really isn't funny anymore | - but shocking and even more shocking Microsoft is having a | hard time with this. In my opinion, this RFC is the smoking | gun. Check out this particular section along with my HLS inline | comments: From (1985) RFC 965........." | | It's (maybe not so) unbelievable that M$ is backing down on | this especially after re-reading Cringley's 1998 article: | http://www.pbs.org/cringely/pulpit/pulpit19981| 203.html and | knowing now, that they didn't get a license | from Eolas. I'm curious as to just what can be done with any | browser, not just IE, to get around this as I was wrong | according to Cringley: | | "The patent also covers the use of any algorithm that | implements dynamic, bi-directional communications between Web | browsers and external applications. Every Web browser you can | name currently supports embedded applets, and is therefore in | violation of the Eolas patent. But wait, there's more! The | Eolas patent covers the whole concept of executable content, | which is at the very foundation of Java. So it looks like | Java, too, is in violation of the patent. For that matter, so | is Microsoft's Internet Explorer and ActiveX." | | Hmmm, | | cheers, | | Mark | | | | ____ . The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM . ____ | To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: | mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] | Send Your Posts | To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] | To set a personal password send an email to | [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK | pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change | subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: | http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub | | ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ | | You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: | [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to | %%email.unsub%% | | ____ • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To set a personal password send an email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] with the words: "set WDVLTALK pw=yourpassword" in the body of the email. To change subscription settings to the wdvltalk digest version: http://wdvl.internet.com/WDVL/Forum/#sub ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED]