Using display: none defeats the purpose if accessibility is your concern. That's the Fahrner technique see: http://www.alistapart.com/articles/fir/ They see the same thing you report when css is on and images off. You need to position it off page with a negative (or really high) margin. Might check some of the other image replacement techniques listed in http://www.accessify.com/archives/2003_08_03_news-archives.asp#1060161072462 97283
Cheryl D. Wise Certified Professional Web Developer Microsoft FrontPage MVP http://wiserways.com -----Original Message----- From: Ross Clutterbuck Good Job Stephen! Re your image replacement for the title - exactly which "flavour" are you using? I don't think I've seen one which uses an empty <span>. My personal preference is styling the <h1> with the background image and relevant sizes and then nesting a <span> inside that <h1>. That nested <span> is then styled with display:none to hide it. The only delay I then experience is the time it takes to download the image (which is always a factor anyway so resolving that is a different issue). The only downside to this approach is a browser configured with CSS on and Images off as the <h1> box will be rendered but nothing will show up in it. I thought this might have something to do with what BlueRobot calls the "Flash of Unstyled Content" but the rest of the CSS loads in fine - could be worth a double-check though: http://www.bluerobot.com/web/css/fouc.asp Apart from that it's looking good and onwards with XHTML+CSS!!! I sincerely hope there are some of those more CSS-loathing table-based designers out there who's seen this page...THIS is what we are talking about, and the code is so much cleaner than the nested junk that table-based design will churn out. ____ • The WDVL Discussion List from WDVL.COM • ____ To Join wdvltalk, Send An Email To: mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] or use the web interface http://e-newsletters.internet.com/discussionlists.html/ Send Your Posts To: [EMAIL PROTECTED] To change subscription settings or add a password: http://intm-dl.sparklist.com/read/?forum=wdvltalk ________________ http://www.wdvl.com _______________________ You are currently subscribed to wdvltalk as: archive@jab.org To unsubscribe send a blank email to [EMAIL PROTECTED] To unsubscribe via postal mail, please contact us at: Jupitermedia Corp. Attn: Discussion List Management 475 Park Avenue South New York, NY 10016 Please include the email address which you have been contacted with.
