sorry. Apologies

On Sep 16, 2010, at 3:21 PM, Guido van Rossum wrote:

Um, talk about a whopper of a topic change. None of that is on the
table. Maybe for Python 4. And certainly not in web-sig.

On Thu, Sep 16, 2010 at 12:32 PM, Massimo Di Pierro
<mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
Not sure this discussion belongs here but since you asked:

I think it should have takes three/four more bold steps:
1) address the GIL issue completely by removing reference counting
2) add more support for lightweight threads (like stackless, erlang and go)
3) perhaps allow some mechanism for tainting data and do restricted
execution
4) change name to avoid confusion
... and yet stress that it was almost 100% compatible with existing python
code.

I think a lot more people would have jumped on it from outside the existing
community.
The future is in multi core processors and lightweight threads.

Of course I am not a developer and I do realize these things may be hard to
accomplish.
I also trust Guido's judgement more than my own in this respect so consider
mine a wish more than a realistic suggestion.

Massimo


On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:16 PM, Ty Sarna wrote:

On Sep 16, 2010, at 2:55 PM, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:

My experience in various
communities suggests that naming the new totally-bw-incompat thing the same as the old thing weakens both the new thing and the old thing,

I share the same experience.

Interesting. Do you feel that Python 3.x should have been named something
other than Python?

I think that would rather have weakened both 3.x and 2.x by suggesting a
fork, placing the two in competition, when the goal was to have one
supersede the other, as is also the case here.


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