No 3. The Larch ?

Not an animal, but I hope at least a couple of readers understand the
reference :)

On Dec 17, 9:37 pm, vihang <vihan...@gmail.com> wrote:
> interesting...  whats a python-friendly animal?
>
> On Dec 18, 12:34 am, pedro <pedro...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Persoanlly I don't think I'll use T2.
> > If T2 comes with T3 which it necessarily has to, what's the problem of
> > whomever wants to use T2 getting it by downloading T3? My guess is
> > that you'll end up using T3 anyway and eventually going a bit to a
> > lower level here and there to achieve a bit more customization of your
> > application. I don't know. Just my way of looking at the whole thing.
>
> > As for the name... massimo, I believe you're Italian right? Open
> > source projects often come with funny/cute names of fruits, animals,
> > dishes, etc. often in other languages. Since italian is a language
> > with many open vowels and with may words that are quite easy to
> > pronounce I would suggest some italian word. I don't know... like...
> > which animal would web2py if it would be an animal?
> > Then T3 could be called something after web2py... I don't something
> > like
> > web2py => cat
> > T3 => tiger
> > somthing like that... don't know.
>
> > On 17 Dec, 20:38, "Paul D. Eden" <benchl...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > +1 for adding a plugin system to web2py and making T2 a plugin.
>
> > > A standardised and documented plugin system will, in an of itself, be
> > > a great boon to web2py.
> > > - Plugins (modules) are the reason that drupal became as big as it
> > > did.
>
> > > Now with that said, web2py already has applications.
>
> > > What exactly is the difference between plugins and applications?
> > > - In my mind, applications are sets of files can run alone (and be
> > > distributed via tar files (a great system is already in place for
> > > doing this))
> > >  and plugins would be meant as building blocks in applications or a
> > > means of overriding and changing the default behaviour of web2py or an
> > > application.
>
> > > On Dec 15, 12:48 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > So far nothing changed yet.
>
> > > > So far I did exactly what you said and I just reposted plugin_t2
> > > > making sure the t2.py is the same as the t3 one.
>
> > > > I just do not want to maintain two apps that share mostly the same
> > > > files.
>
> > > > Let's keep this discussion going. I am not sure myself what the best
> > > > way is.
>
> > > > Massimo
>
> > > > On Dec 15, 1:33 pm, Kacper Krupa <pageno...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > I agree with ceej, he's right.
>
> > > > > On 15 Gru, 20:27, ceej <cjlaz...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > I understand what you are saying Massimo and Vince, but what I mean 
> > > > > > is
> > > > > > I just think t2 should be kept separate and maintained as a sort of
> > > > > >pluginand I think vince you proved my point by saying "web2py, T2 and
> > > > > > T3 are quite confusing, i guess we may need a plugins system for
> > > > > > web2py. " I don't think merging t2 with t3 and then adding t3 
> > > > > > specific
> > > > > > things into t2 was a good idea I think you should have extended t2 
> > > > > > in
> > > > > > a separate module for t3 specific things, because one I think it
> > > > > > confuses things like Vince points out and two could cause a lot of
> > > > > > trouble down the line when people just want toplugint2.
>
> > > > > > On Dec 15, 12:36 am, vince <lapcc...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > i've been playing with T3, T3 actually is a sample wiki build on 
> > > > > > > top
> > > > > > > of T2 plus some extra features too.
>
> > > > > > > i think what Massimo mean is he will no longer distribute T2 
> > > > > > > itself as
> > > > > > > you can find it on T3. right?
>
> > > > > > > web2py, T2 and T3 are quite confusing, i guess we may need a 
> > > > > > > plugins
> > > > > > > system for web2py.
>
> > > > > > > vince
>
> > > > > > > On Dec 15, 2:01 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > This is what I meant. t2 is contained and will be contained in 
> > > > > > > > t3.
>
> > > > > > > > On Dec 14, 4:11 pm, ceej <cjlaz...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > I like the idea of t3 but I also really like the idea of t2, 
> > > > > > > > > I feel t2
> > > > > > > > > should be separate from t3 and the extra features in t2 that 
> > > > > > > > > are
> > > > > > > > > specifically for t3 should be in a separate module extending 
> > > > > > > > > t2.
> > > > > > > > > Because t2 is a great module to plug into any application and 
> > > > > > > > > helps
> > > > > > > > > speed up the development process. Which I think a lot of 
> > > > > > > > > developers
> > > > > > > > > like the idea of. T3 is more of an application already for 
> > > > > > > > > someone to
> > > > > > > > > build on top of and is ok for certain types of projects. So I 
> > > > > > > > > really
> > > > > > > > > think we should consider "merging" t2 into t3.
>
> > > > > > > > > What are other peoples thoughts?
>
> > > > > > > > > On Dec 14, 9:51 am, Joe  Barnhart <joe.barnh...@gmail.com> 
> > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > In keeping with the web2py theme, a couple which come to 
> > > > > > > > > > mind are:
>
> > > > > > > > > > app2py
>
> > > > > > > > > > webapp2py
>
> > > > > > > > > > On Dec 10, 4:13 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> 
> > > > > > > > > > wrote:
>
> > > > > > > > > > > This is not the final word. I think we need a better 
> > > > > > > > > > > name. T3 is not
> > > > > > > > > > > easily identifiable.
>
> > > > > > > > > > > Suggestions?
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