On Friday, October 25, 2013 9:40:10 PM UTC-7, Massimo Di Pierro wrote: > > It would help to know exactly what we can do better. Where do you need we > need more explanations? > > You'll have to wait for a specific example; they've all drained out of my head for the moment. Probably in the area of services and auth, because I haven't started working with json yet.
Sometimes, for readers like me, the extra explanation needed is just the same stuff in different words. Which this group has been great at providing. Sometimes, what's needed is a different example, so that a slightly different approach can show the tools [in Web2Py] from another angle. That's where having a wider list of resources (such as other web sites that provide basic training for Web2Py. And doesn't it sound better to be telling curious visitors, "There's a whole raft of material on how to use Web2Py!", compared to "Well, there's 2 books by the core team. Good stuff, but just 2 books. Oh, and a support group." I'm looking forward to spending more time with the Web2PySlices examples, especially since some new ones have been added in response to questions that have appeared here. I have an idea for contributing one of my own. But impressing the visitors with how much there is to support their choice of Web2Py isn't a bad thing, either. /dps > > On Friday, 25 October 2013 16:19:56 UTC-5, Dave S wrote: >> >> On Friday, October 25, 2013 2:16:24 PM UTC-7, Dave S wrote: >>> >>> >>> On Friday, October 25, 2013 1:51:09 PM UTC-7, Derek wrote: >>>> >>>> I don't think anything is "missing". People just want to get their toes >>>> wet when creating websites, and prefer instant gratification to reading >>>> the >>>> documentation. Nothing wrong with that, and adding more documentation >>>> really isn't going to solve the problem. My advice to anyone who wants to >>>> learn web2py is to read the official documentation cover to cover. That's >>>> it. It's not a difficult read, and it's not very long. >>>> >>>> >>> As someone who recently started with Web2Py, but with some background in >>> Python, websites (html and php), and simple use of DBs, I disagree. I read >>> the online book. I worked through the examples in the overview. And I >>> still have questions. The book is excellent. It is not enough by itself. >>> >>> >> And reading 2 months of back issues of this group, and following along >> for 2 more months is not exactly pursuing instant gratification. >> >> /dps >> >> >> >>> On Thursday, October 24, 2013 12:32:05 PM UTC-7, Dave S wrote: >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On Thursday, October 24, 2013 10:53:54 AM UTC-7, Derek wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>> Well, I don't particularly like that website. It's cluttered, >>>>>> disjointed. >>>>>> >>>>>> I think pointing people to the Web2Py Book (aka Documentation) is the >>>>>> way to go. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> Well, it helps that the Web2Py book is quite thorough and well >>>>> written. Other products should be jealous. But this group wouldn't be >>>>> very busy if nothing else was needed. >>>>> The Totally Official Web2Py website has the Documentation and >>>>> Resources page >>>>> <http://www.web2py.com/init/default/documentation> >>>>> >>>>> which has a Learning and Demos section, which I should check out more. >>>>> >>>>> Another resource would be the Web2PySlices site, which is also listed >>>>> on the above page; I've skimmed through some of the examples there and on >>>>> the utils and plug-ins links. >>>>> >>>>> Finally, several of the key contributores have their own book: >>>>> < >>>>> http://www.packtpub.com/web2py-application-development-recipes-to-master-python-web-framework-cookbook/book?utm_source=web2py.com&utm_medium=link&utm_content=pod&utm_campaign=mdb_009617#sample >>>>> > >>>>> >>>>> I haven't had a chance to check that one out, but it looks itneresting >>>>> and the authors have made plenty of good contributions to the user group >>>>> here. >>>>> >>>>> So (other than the distracting background image), what's missing from >>>>> Massimo's page compared to the "Learning Ruby" page the OP cites would be >>>>> a >>>>> short summary or review of each of the resources. >>>>> >>>>> /dps >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> To quote PEP20: >>>>>> "There should be one and preferably only one obvious way to do it." >>>>>> >>>>>> The simple fact is that if you learn Web2Py some other way, and come >>>>>> here to ask questions on how to do something, most answers you'll get >>>>>> will >>>>>> refer to the official documentation. Might as well read it. It's simple >>>>>> short and to the point. >>>>>> >>>>> >> > -- Resources: - http://web2py.com - http://web2py.com/book (Documentation) - http://github.com/web2py/web2py (Source code) - https://code.google.com/p/web2py/issues/list (Report Issues) --- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "web2py-users" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to web2py+unsubscr...@googlegroups.com. For more options, visit https://groups.google.com/groups/opt_out.