No but I do not like angular. It constrains the JS programming too much for 
my taste. I use ractive.js with bootstrap already without problems. 

On Wednesday, 14 May 2014 03:37:59 UTC-5, Ramos wrote:
>
> Massimo,
> have you tried Angular-ui?
> http://angular-ui.github.io/bootstrap/
>
>
> 2014-05-14 5:40 GMT+01:00 Massimo Di Pierro <massimo.dipie...@gmail.com>:
>
>> I have been using angular.js a lot but I find the controller pattern to 
>> be too constraining. for example I cannot use promises outside the scope of 
>> a controller. I also find that while easy for simple example is get easily 
>> out of hands and I find myself having to revert to jQuery for lots of 
>> stuff. Consider for example the case of opening/closing a panel when a 
>> button is clicked. One can do this with angular but if you wish to add any 
>> animation to the panel, you have to use jQuery.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Monday, 12 May 2014 14:28:48 UTC-5, Michele Comitini wrote:
>>>
>>> How is angular.js compared to ractive.js inside web2py's ecosystem? 
>>> What is your opinion? 
>>>
>>> 2014-05-12 18:25 GMT+02:00 António Ramos <ramstei...@gmail.com>: 
>>> > 
>>> > I´m just in favor of angular to improve and modernize user experience. 
>>> > In this matter router-ui seems very interesting also. 
>>> > Also ng animate for animations. 
>>> > 
>>> > I dont understand how you relate directly data out of sync with 
>>> angular and 
>>> > not with web2py. 
>>> > If new data on server, just publish it to the clients so all update 
>>> it.Its a 
>>> > web2py problem not angular. 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > Regards 
>>> > António 
>>> > 
>>> > 
>>> > 2014-05-12 16:59 GMT+01:00 weheh <richard_gor...@verizon.net>: 
>>> > 
>>> >> Filtering and sorting can definitely save on http calls. Is there 
>>> anything 
>>> >> else you can think of where it's applicable without creating a synch 
>>> issue 
>>> >> in highly collaborative apps? 
>>> >> 
>>> >> 
>>> >> On Monday, May 12, 2014 11:37:07 PM UTC+8, Ramos wrote: 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> I was not talking about hiding on click. I was thinking about 
>>> filtering 
>>> >>> with a live search box above the table. 
>>> >>> Angular Filters and directives are awesome and once you know them 
>>> you 
>>> >>> cant stop thinking about them. 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> I´m here to learn so feel free to pun me... 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> :P 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>> 2014-05-12 16:25 GMT+01:00 weheh <richard...@verizon.net>: 
>>> >>> 
>>> >>>> @Ramos: of course, I understand that Amber's script was necessarily 
>>> >>>> limited, but it did highlight an important gotcha with this kind of 
>>> >>>> scripting when used with web2py. And if all I wanted to do was hide 
>>> a table 
>>> >>>> entry on click, I wouldn't want to pay the penalty of loading 
>>> AngularJS to 
>>> >>>> do that. $(".target").hide() works fine. So I'm still looking for 
>>> the angle 
>>> >>>> where AngularJS fits (no pun intended, but happy to make the pun 
>>> anyway). 
>>> >>>> ;-) 
>>> >>>> 
>>> >>>> 
>>> >>>> On Monday, May 12, 2014 6:15:37 PM UTC+8, Ramos wrote: 
>>> >>>>> 
>>> >>>>> Amber was only focused in showing how easy it is to create a 
>>> better 
>>> >>>>> experience for the user using Angular than simple javascript. 
>>> >>>>> Also a lot less code for us, developers. 
>>> >>>>> 
>>> >>>>> It was just a simple demo. Of course that if the app was real and 
>>> to be 
>>> >>>>> used by many, she could/should worry about keeping data in sync. 
>>> >>>>> And angular could fetch ajax data just like web2py components.I 
>>> see no 
>>> >>>>> diference here. Its only a matter of taste. 
>>> >>>>> 
>>> >>>>> I could as well say that using only web2py,if i have 1000 users 
>>> and 
>>> >>>>> everytime i need to hide a row in a table i need an http call, my 
>>> server 
>>> >>>>> will die soon with all requests.. and for this angular is a 
>>> perfect fit. 
>>> >>>>> 
>>> >>>>> 
>>> >>>>> 
>>> >>>>> 
>>> >>>>> 2014-05-12 3:28 GMT+01:00 weheh <richard...@verizon.net>: 
>>> >>>>>> 
>>> >>>>>> +1 regarding the AngulaJS talk with web2py by Amber Doctor. Kudos 
>>> to 
>>> >>>>>> Amber for a talk well given! 
>>> >>>>>> 
>>> >>>>>> I've been studying AngularJS a little and haven't written any 
>>> code, 
>>> >>>>>> yet, but my web Spidey sense is giving off alarms. I think 
>>> Amber's talk 
>>> >>>>>> underscores a potential danger of client-side MVC. First, correct 
>>> me if I'm 
>>> >>>>>> wrong, but there's nothing in AngularJS that you can't already do 
>>> in web2y 
>>> >>>>>> using components. The difference is that Angular does it client 
>>> side without 
>>> >>>>>> needing to make an http call, so it potentially runs faster. And 
>>> AngularJS 
>>> >>>>>> seems to have a more compact way of doing things we do in jQuery 
>>> with 
>>> >>>>>> _onclick="blah blah blah" and other such 
>>> ajax("url",["target"],":eval"); or 
>>> >>>>>> web2py_component(...) stuff. 
>>> >>>>>> 
>>> >>>>>> The danger highlighted by Amber's example is that Angular makes 
>>> it 
>>> >>>>>> much easier to create a client-side model that gets out of synch 
>>> with its 
>>> >>>>>> server-side web2py model. And keeping them in synch violates DRY 
>>> principles, 
>>> >>>>>> requiring the http calls that you would have had to do anyway if 
>>> you did a 
>>> >>>>>> web2py-component-only approach. 
>>> >>>>>> 
>>> >>>>>> For instance, if Amber's talk had been about a collaborative 
>>> recipe 
>>> >>>>>> app and someone was updating the recipe database serverside while 
>>> somebody 
>>> >>>>>> else was perusing the db clientside, then it would be easy for 
>>> the 
>>> >>>>>> clientside user to get an out of date recipe and stay ignorant of 
>>> that fact 
>>> >>>>>> for a very long time. That's because the local copy of the data 
>>> is fetched 
>>> >>>>>> only once when the recipe is first clicked, assuming I understood 
>>> her app 
>>> >>>>>> correctly. Further exiting and entering the recipe would not do 
>>> an http 
>>> >>>>>> call, whereas the web2py component approach would naturally force 
>>> an http 
>>> >>>>>> call, thereby keeping the user in synch. 
>>> >>>>>> 
>>> >>>>>> AngularJS seems to offer nifty, high-performance clientside 
>>> business 
>>> >>>>>> logic ability. But unless structured carefully, it's not clear 
>>> that it'll 
>>> >>>>>> save http calls without endangering synch between client and 
>>> server. And it 
>>> >>>>>> could introduce even more complexity in terms of debugging and 
>>> verbosity in 
>>> >>>>>> terms of supporting two MVCs for the same app. The thought of 
>>> that makes me 
>>> >>>>>> wince. 
>>> >>>>>> 
>>> >>>>>> Anybody else have an opinion about this? 
>>> >>>>>> 
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