John -

Play along (you are not the only player, of course)...

Collaboration would mean some sort of harmonization;

Massimo "had trouble" w/ sphinx (not sure what he tried) - it's reST with
extensions (and reST is a tad less "regular" than some other markups, so
attempts at treating it the same way for wikis failed to hit the sweet spot,
but there are examples - in Pycon-tech, and moin-moin for example).

The "only 2 people" Massimo pointed out isnt' - they are the only 2 he saw
give him stuff, and he made assumptions based on that.

An open-source book, Python 3 Patterns and Idioms (
http://www.mindviewinc.com/Books/Python3Patterns/Index.php) also uses Sphinx
(and also has been frustrated w/ lack of submissions, but this is I believe
more to do with the lack of an interactive, live version for sphinx than
anything).

"Anything goes" sounds good initially - but results are the proof;  it can
generate relief (no one likes change, so learning something new, or rather
not needing to is generally received with "appreciation")...

As Massimo will attest, as long as it's a one man show - one contributor,
one decision, then "what I want" works pretty well.

Massimo writes in LaTex - shall we write a latex source, and post a PDF?

As long as opionions abound, there will be "I think I'll try"....   time and
actual results are the only real measure.

I'm in the Sphinx camp (with a little off on LaTex, and definitely a Scribus
fan, as I build and bug report on the release candidates ... but would not
necessarily use either of those for this;  LaTex / beemer is what I'm trying
for the time being for presentations; Scribus for brochures and manuals).

While everyone will find it easy to use what they are comfortable with, I
still challenge people to ask "what are we trying to serve?  How will we
deliver?  What will be best for this?"  --- that discussion (along with some
Prototyping that goes far enough) is what I would like to encourage.

The "whatever" approach is just.... easy.  (Not much more than a "don't rock
anyone's boat" approach, and not necessarily very effective in the mid- to
long run).

Regards,
- Yarko

On Sun, Jul 19, 2009 at 8:39 AM, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com> wrote:

>
>
> Yarko, I'll play it by ear initially till we see what the volume will
> be.  If Sphinx markup can be manipulated in a reasonable fashion we
> can explore that route. If the volume warrants some level of
> automation I don't see why a article submission system could not be
> developed with Web2Py. In the same vein an entire search, index and
> publish system could be implemented for the reader that could
> incorporate web, PDF, slides and videos.
>
> JohnMc
>
> On Jul 18, 9:54 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 9:41 PM, gluegl <edpime...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > > I personally favor SlideShare, ScribD, DocStoc, Vimeo, Truveo/
> > > YouTube...
> > > However every is encourage to contribute in whatever manner they feel
> > > they can do the best job at it.
> > > At least something positive is being done, which a great step in the
> > > right direction.
> >
> > That's nice.....
> >
> > My sepcific question was about your choice of Scribus - and if you chose
> > "printed" document generation (Scribus's forte), and  if you considered
> > Sphinx (which generates online, static, searchable document as an
> option).
> >
> > -Y
> >
> >
> >
> > > -G
> >
> > > On Jul 18, 5:43 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Scribus (starting w/ 1.3.5 I think)  also has rendered frames, e.g.
> > > > LaTex....
> >
> > > > Any reason you did not consider Sphinx?  That gives indexs,
> > > searchability,
> > > > both web and pdf presentation....
> >
> > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 4:36 PM, JohnMc <maruadventu...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> >
> > > > > Yarko,
> >
> > > > > Well I have drafted my article using OOffice and am preparing to
> > > > > publish in Scribus. Text/graphics format. I can embed a link to
> video.
> > > > > I don't know if I can embed video in a Scribus document but I will
> > > > > find out. Being the 'test subject' I fully expect a bunch of
> feedback.
> >
> > > > > If the format is acceptable I would be willing to act as
> 'publisher'
> > > > > so long as an agreed upon submission format can be adhered to. I
> would
> > > > > want it make it as drop-in and publish as possible.
> >
> > > > > JohnMc
> >
> > > > > On Jul 18, 2:18 pm, Yarko Tymciurak <yark...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > many questions I have before getting to "where"...
> >
> > > > > > What form?  Tutorials of what sort? Videos? Text? Interactive w/
> > > > > excercises?
> >
> > > > > > On Sat, Jul 18, 2009 at 2:12 PM, gluegl <edpime...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >
> > > > > > > Will follow Massimo and the members of this group advice...
> > > > > > > Where do you suggest?
> > > > > > > -G
> >
>

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