I think the point is: is it better to generate a validation error
message when a choice is not selected or, by default, select always
the first choice? Are you sure that the problem is with the presence
of a blank option and not with the wrong error associated to it?

On Jan 29, 9:55 am, Thadeus Burgess <thade...@thadeusb.com> wrote:
> +1 supporting DenesL argument. (but we already know this)
>
> note.
>
> default.
>
> breaks app.
>
> we like the feature
>
> but it shouldn't break an app
>
> no reason to have to specifically DISABLE something that hasn't
> existed in web2py before ( you know, the empty select or "please
> choose a value" breaks my app which is why I'm still running pre-1.70
> codebase )
>
> The only reason that it defaults to zero='' is because the person who
> originally requested it needed that.
>
> Their only argument was THEY needed it so it should default to it just
> for THEIR convenience while everyone else is subjugated to having to
> DISABLE a NEW feature.
>
> -Thadeus
>
> On Fri, Jan 29, 2010 at 9:31 AM, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> > I must insist.
> > The point is that IS_IN_DB and IS_IN_SET now show a spurious empty
> > option by default.
> > The keyword here is default.
>
> > If you want to introduce a 'choose a value" option you should do it
> > explicitly and 'at your own risk', the risk being that it creates an
> > option that when selected will cause an error.
>
> > An empty option is plainly wrong, it is not part of the IS_IN_DB or
> > IS_IN_SET options. It is completely artificial.
>
> > How many times the option has been changed should not matter, getting
> > it right should.
> > Denes.
>
> > On Jan 29, 10:06 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> >> There is no way to please everybody here. some people ask for
> >> zero=None, some for zero='', some for zero='Please choose a value'.
> >> There is no right or wrong. I think we should leave the default as is
> >> ('', we changed it twice already) and you configure it as needed.
>
> >> Massimo
>
> >> On Jan 29, 9:00 am, DenesL <denes1...@yahoo.ca> wrote:
>
> >> > <bump>
>
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