I commented out the line

import gluon.import_all

from web2py.py.

This seemed to help a lot!  I now have free memory, just a little, and
the % memory used was halved.

My little application runs fine, so far.

top - 13:33:31 up 1 day,  3:32,  3 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00,
0.00
Tasks:  14 total,   1 running,  13 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.1%sy,  0.0%ni, 99.9%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,
0.0%si,  0.0%st
Mem:     65536k total,    62432k used,     3104k free,        0k
buffers
Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,        0k
cached

  PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
    1 root      15   0  1936  888  628 S    0  1.4   0:00.44 init
28126 syslog    18   0  1972  684  536 S    0  1.0   0:00.47 syslogd
28141 root      15   0  5372 1096  700 S    0  1.7   0:00.07 sshd
28151 root      15   0  2468  880  712 S    0  1.3   0:00.00 xinetd
28194 root      18   0  2168  924  740 S    0  1.4   0:00.17 cron
28246 root      15   0  8176 2808 2240 S    0  4.3   0:02.20 sshd
28309 root      15   0  2952 1672 1316 S    0  2.6   0:00.02 bash
 7570 root      16   0  8176 2808 2240 S    0  4.3   0:00.40 sshd
13457 root      18   0  2944 1620 1272 S    0  2.5   0:00.00 bash
23943 root      15   0  3016 1512 1276 S    0  2.3   0:00.00 vi
 8058 root      15   0  8176 2760 2220 S    0  4.2   0:00.12 sshd
 8092 root      16   0  2940 1616 1272 S    0  2.5   0:00.00 bash
13786 root      15   0  2388 1108  908 R    0  1.7   0:00.02 top
14185 root      18   0 49096  12m 3820 S    0 19.5   0:00.32 python2.5



On Feb 11, 1:18 pm, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote:
> you just comment import import_all from main web2py should still work
> but will choke later if an app requests a module that does not fit in
> memory. Anyhow, modules do not take that much space.
>
> On Feb 11, 8:34 am, raven <ravenspo...@yahoo.com> wrote:
>
> > This sounds interesting.
>
> > Instead of hacking around in import_all.py, I wonder if someone who
> > know what's what, could provide a stripped down version of this file -
> > or even an option to run with a stripped down version that only loads
> > the bare minimum?
>
> > On Feb 11, 8:49 am, Timothy Farrell <tfarr...@swgen.com> wrote:
>
> > > You might try commenting out the lines in import_all.py if you're
> > > running the source version.  That way it doesn't load every module.
>
> > > -tim
>
> > > On 2/10/2010 9:06 PM, raven wrote:
>
> > > > Here are the details of memory usage when web2py is NOT running
>
> > > > top - 21:58:38 up 11:57,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
> > > > Tasks:  10 total,   1 running,   9 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> > > > Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,
> > > > 0.0%si,  0.0%st
> > > > Mem:     65536k total,    13320k used,    52216k free,        0k
> > > > buffers
> > > > Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,        0k
> > > > cached
>
> > > >    PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
> > > >      1 root      15   0  1936  888  628 S    0  1.4   0:00.44 init
> > > > 28126 syslog    15   0  1972  668  536 S    0  1.0   0:00.29 syslogd
> > > > 28141 root      15   0  5372 1096  700 S    0  1.7   0:00.07 sshd
> > > > 28151 root      15   0  2468  880  712 S    0  1.3   0:00.00 xinetd
> > > > 28194 root      15   0  2168  924  740 S    0  1.4   0:00.08 cron
> > > > 28246 root      15   0  8176 2808 2240 S    0  4.3   0:00.97 sshd
> > > > 28309 root      18   0  2952 1672 1316 S    0  2.6   0:00.02 bash
> > > > 32170 root      15   0  8172 2804 2240 S    0  4.3   0:01.62 sshd
> > > > 32194 root      15   0  2944 1616 1272 S    0  2.5   0:00.00 bash
> > > > 18279 root      15   0  2384 1104  908 R    0  1.7   0:00.17 top
>
> > > > Here web2py is running ( I have reduced the numthreads to 2 )
>
> > > > r...@x:~# top
> > > > top - 21:54:56 up 11:53,  2 users,  load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
> > > > Tasks:  11 total,   1 running,  10 sleeping,   0 stopped,   0 zombie
> > > > Cpu(s):  0.0%us,  0.0%sy,  0.0%ni,100.0%id,  0.0%wa,  0.0%hi,
> > > > 0.0%si,  0.0%st
> > > > Mem:     65536k total,    65536k used,        0k free,        0k
> > > > buffers
> > > > Swap:        0k total,        0k used,        0k free,        0k
> > > > cached
>
> > > >    PID USER      PR  NI  VIRT  RES  SHR S %CPU %MEM    TIME+  COMMAND
> > > >      1 root      15   0  1936  888  628 S    0  1.4   0:00.44 init
> > > > 28126 syslog    15   0  1972  668  536 S    0  1.0   0:00.29 syslogd
> > > > 28141 root      15   0  5372 1096  700 S    0  1.7   0:00.07 sshd
> > > > 28151 root      15   0  2468  880  712 S    0  1.3   0:00.00 xinetd
> > > > 28194 root      15   0  2168  924  740 S    0  1.4   0:00.08 cron
> > > > 28246 root      15   0  8176 2808 2240 S    0  4.3   0:00.97 sshd
> > > > 28309 root      15   0  2952 1672 1316 S    0  2.6   0:00.02 bash
> > > > 32170 root      15   0  8172 2804 2240 S    0  4.3   0:01.62 sshd
> > > > 32194 root      15   0  2944 1616 1272 S    0  2.5   0:00.00 bash
> > > > 14172 root      18   0 63088  25m 4252 S    0 40.2   0:04.13 python2.5
> > > > 18279 root      15   0  2384 1104  908 R    0  1.7   0:00.16 top
>
> > > > On Feb 10, 8:13 pm, mdipierro<mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu>  wrote:
>
> > > >> Are you sure. Usually VPS includes the OS.
>
> > > >> On Feb 10, 2:23 pm, raven<ravenspo...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
> > > >>> Thank you for your answer.
>
> > > >>> 1.  The memory needed by the OS does not count, because I am using a
> > > >>> virtual private server.
>
> > > >>> 2.  I am using web2py 'out of the box' with its own server, not
> > > >>> apache.
>
> > > >>> On Feb 10, 2:36 pm, Thadeus Burgess<thade...@thadeusb.com>  wrote:
>
> > > >>>> For one, you have two requirements, an Ubuntu requirement, which far
> > > >>>> exceeds 64K. I'm not sure an OS can even run on 64K now days.
>
> > > >>>> I run web2py + ubuntu + apache_mod_wsgi on several servers, and each
> > > >>>> instance web2py is only using roughly 15MB. The system uses around
> > > >>>> 90MB (this is including ubuntu, postgresql, apache). I'm sure a 256MB
> > > >>>> system will be more than enough for a small site, of course your ram
> > > >>>> usage goes up with the more requests / db access you have.
>
> > > >>>> -Thadeus
>
> > > >>>> On Wed, Feb 10, 2010 at 9:40 AM, raven<ravenspo...@yahoo.com>  wrote:
>
> > > >>>>> web2py is working very well for me on my MSWINDOWS desktop.
>
> > > >>>>> I am ready to deploy my first application on a virtual private 
> > > >>>>> server
> > > >>>>> running Ubuntu with 64K of guaranteed RAM
>
> > > >>>>> I loaded the web2py source and typed
>
> > > >>>>> python2.5 web2py.py
>
> > > >>>>> and immediatly ran out of memory.
>
> > > >>>>> How much memory do I need to purchase?
>
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