On May 24, 12:18 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: > I have some problems: > > 1) people ask me to contribute to more projects that I can handle. > 2) I am good at kicking off a project (20% of the work) but I am not > the best person to bring it to production (the other 80%) of the work. > 3) I want to delegate some of these projects to users I trust. I need > to better keep track of you, the users, your skills and interests. > > You and I have some problems in common: > 1) you are an individual or you own a small consulting company and > you find hard to compete for large projects > 2) you want to use web2py but you need to sell web2py before you can > sell yoru services. > 3) you need legal help (sample non-disclosure agreement, sample > contracts, etc.) > 4) for large projects you need to find people who can help you with > development (you man need a designer, a coder, a system administrator, > a GAE expert, etc). > 5) you want somebody else to handle advertising for you > > I want to help. I want to help you find development jobs, network, and > compete for larger projects by providing some assistance. > > I am about to create something like an association of web2py > professionals with a portal that provides web sites for members, > repository of legal forms, job posting, progress tracking, feedback > forms, etc. Here is the basic idea: we do not advertise web2py, we > advertise the association and its members. you find a client? you keep > all the money. You want to offer your client long term support or code > review? the association will sell that to the client directly > directly. You want to be listed as a member? Follow a code of conduct > (basically use approved tools and ask your clients to review your work > publicly). You already have a consulting company or an employer? You > can have the company listed as an associate under some conditions. > > We can turn our group into a large international consulting > organization overnight. There would be no contract between the > association and you other than a code of conduct that you will have to > follow to be listed and that I am about to wrote. You can continue to > work as an individual or with your existing company. The association > will just help when you need help. > > The association may also partner with some member to provide venture > capital in the form of code development (and perhaps money but not > immediately) for specific projects submitted to the association, in > exchange of shares. > > I have already incorporated to do this. This will be independent and > complementary form web2py itself and web2py would not be the only tool > in the association approved toolkit. > > For now the toolkit will include: web2py, ubuntu, postgresql, jquery, > and google app engine. You as an individual or a company can provide > services based on other tools but the association will endorse these > tools because we can easily find people skilled in them and you, as a > member, will be required to endorse these tools as good tools and > demonstrate your skills in some of them (not all of them). > > web2py is a tool. We will all outlive web2py. But we have created > something important here. A community of skilled professional that > share some experience. I want to see this grow with web2py and beyond > web2py later. I want to see us compete with large consulting > companies. I want to do it using a new business model in which there > are no shareholders to take a cut of your work since they would not be > providing any means of production to you (you already own a laptop and > that is your office), yet I want to provide the other benefits that a > large corporation can offer (a single image, consistency, > reliability). > > Not sure if there should be an admission criteria. I could use your > feedback about this. > > Comments? Thought? You do not have to commit to anything now but who > is interested? > > Massimo
Eventually, I intend to open my small business and I'm not that confident that I will ever get enough market by exclusively working on IT security, my area. I don't neglect the possibility of including web development not only as a way (become web is, for me, the most powerful interface) but also as an end, even if not an exclusive one. So, either way I will use web development and when it comes to fruit, after intense research, I consider web2py the right one to get the best juice. as you all know, I'm an idiot (literally) with many good and bad ideas always emerging and yet I only share about 10% on this ML so that you don't get too bored and I don't see my efforts dissolved. I had this idea some time ago and I even started some work which could be used to retrieve ideas on a possible implementation. I do think this as a great idea and if it wasn't by Massimo I would probably neglect it as he, with a Physics background and with his intense workload still manages to keep web2py in constant evolution with a very responsive attitude. However, web2py is growing at a rate that goes beyond any programming wolverine and it's now much more than a program. Actually, this is not just a great idea, it's a must, really!! Best regards, Francisco Gama T. R. The only constraint is that
