We, people used to free software, keep forgetting some goodies of things like web2py, since we give those for granted.
- full version, no demo or limited in time bull - see how it is coded and know the *real* quality - code written to solve problems and not sell licences - support from the ones that designed the software mic 2010/11/30 mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu>: > I second! > > On Nov 29, 10:31 pm, Jason Brower <encomp...@gmail.com> wrote: >> You may be suprised how good you are. Especially in such short time you >> can improve. I went from barely scraping up web-pages to some pretty >> impressive intra-net sites in just a few months. >> .Net will eventually teach you how not to code. It makes you truly >> appriciate web2py. >> It's tough to have persuade people that have a big bully behind them. I >> know the feeling, but if you can develop the prototype and you do it >> right, you win. Besides, I wonder if this consultant is coding at all. >> His skills to code is directly relative to the statements he makes, at >> least to me. >> BR, >> Jason >> >> On Mon, 2010-11-29 at 18:09 -0600, Lorin Rivers wrote: >> > The number of people that can write code better than I can is close to the >> > number of people who CAN write code… >> >> > On Nov 29, 2010, at 17:08 , Branko Vukelic wrote: >> >> > > We know .NET will scale to thousands of nodes IF you write the .NET >> > > code right. If you write crappy code (and that's inevitable if you >> > > don't like .NET or you don't know .NET), it will not only NOT run on >> > > thousands of nodes, but will probably crash all of them. >> >> > > Having said that... if they can help you write better code on .NET >> > > than you currently write in web2py, the above argument turns on you. >> >> > > On Mon, Nov 29, 2010 at 7:49 PM, Lorin Rivers <lriv...@mosasaur.com> >> > > wrote: >> > >> Unfortunately, the killing argument is "we know .NET will scale to >> > >> thousands of nodes, blah, blah, blah". >> >> > >> This from (a guy who's smart and I respect, honestly) who uses his >> > >> brand-new top-of-the-line 17" MBP to run Windows VMs in Parallels. >> >> > >> On Nov 29, 2010, at 12:20 , Julio Schwarzbeck wrote: >> >> > >>> And this without considering "vendor lock-in". web2py can run on a >> > >>> variety of platforms such as windows, macs. Linux and others, same >> > >>> goes for the selection of the back-end database. Much more flexibility >> > >>> under web2py in my opinion and prototyping is much faster in python. >> >> > >>> On Nov 29, 10:05 am, mdipierro <mdipie...@cs.depaul.edu> wrote: >> > >>>> You achieve scalability by replicating the web server behind a load >> > >>>> balancer. This is documented in the book, chapter 11, using HAProxy. >> > >>>> All frameworks work the same way in this respect. web2py has no >> > >>>> intrinsic limitations. The bottle neck is the database connection. All >> > >>>> frameworks have the same problem. You can replicate the database too >> > >>>> and web2py supports multiple database clients with Round-Robin. >> >> > >>>> On a small VPS, web2py in average, should execute one page in 20ms. >> > >>>> Depending on how many requests/second you need you can determine how >> > >>>> many servers you need. >> >> > >>>> web2py apps run on Google App Engine and that means arbitrary >> > >>>> scalability as long as you can live with the constraints imposed by >> > >>>> the Google datastore (these limitations will go away as soon as Google >> > >>>> releases MySQL in the cloud, which they announced some time ago). >> >> > >>>> Please ask the consultant: which .NET feature makes it scale any >> > >>>> better than web2py or Rails? If he explains we can address it more >> > >>>> specifically. >> >> > >>>> Massimo >> >> > >>>> On Nov 29, 11:56 am, Lorin Rivers <lriv...@mosasaur.com> wrote: >> >> > >>>>> The project I'm working on has hired a consultant who is now >> > >>>>> recommending .Net in place of web2py or even rails. >> >> > >>>>> What's the 'largest' scale web2py is known to perform well on? >> >> > >>>>> -- >> > >>>>> Lorin Rivers >> > >>>>> Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing <http://www.mosasaur.com> >> > >>>>> <mailto:lriv...@mosasaur.com> >> > >>>>> 512/203.3198 (m) >> >> > >> -- >> > >> Lorin Rivers >> > >> Mosasaur: Killer Technical Marketing <http://www.mosasaur.com> >> > >> <mailto:lriv...@mosasaur.com> >> > >> 512/203.3198 (m) >> >> > > -- >> > > Branko Vukelić >> >> > > bg.bra...@gmail.com >> > > stu...@brankovukelic.com >> >> > > Check out my blog:http://www.brankovukelic.com/ >> > > Check out my portfolio:http://www.flickr.com/photos/foxbunny/ >> > > Registered Linux user #438078 (http://counter.li.org/) >> > > I hang out on identi.ca:http://identi.ca/foxbunny >> >> > > Gimp Brushmakers Guild >> > >http://bit.ly/gbg-group >> >>
