Hi Massimo:

Looking at http://web2py.com/poweredby it seems that there are both 
examples and derivative projects listed.

A derivative project imho is a site that is based on web2py as its core and 
probably FOSS or installable. I would expect a listing to contain projects 
like 

* Muvuca 
* Instant Press 
* web2conf 

Other intranet or closed sourced projects should be listed in a separate 
listing, maybe as 'case studies'.

Maybe an example to make it even clearer what a derivative project is:

Symfony 2 is being used by eZ Publish and drupal
- http://symfony.com/blog/symfony2-meets-drupal-8
- http://symfony.com/blog/symfony2-meets-ez-publish-5

And Ubuntu has derivatives like Lubuntu, Kubuntu, Edubuntu, Xubuntu etc

Giving such web2py derivative projects visibility could increase awareness 
and therefore increase contribution (I hope!)


On Wednesday, August 1, 2012 2:35:40 AM UTC+8, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>
> Good ones are listed here:
>
> http://web2py.com/poweredby
>
> Example projects are here:
>
> http://web2py.com/appliances
>
> The majority of projects are closed source and used in intranets.
>
> massimo
>
> On Tuesday, 31 July 2012 12:23:22 UTC-5, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
>>
>> @Massimo is there a page somewhere listing the projects derived from 
>> web2py? I think maybe one reason is the lack of awareness and visibility of 
>> such web2py derivative projects
>>
>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 11:51:56 PM UTC+8, Massimo Di Pierro wrote:
>>>
>>> I agree web2py needs a good CMS. The problem is that different people 
>>> expect different things from a CMS. Some time ago I posted code for web2cms 
>>> but nobody has contributed to it. :-(
>>> Now I am trying put some of that logic into auth.wiki()
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, 31 July 2012 10:21:24 UTC-5, Luther Goh Lu Feng wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I wish to share that imho one of the strengths of web2py is its 
>>>> dedication towards backwards compatibility. This is something not 
>>>> frequently found in other frameworks, eg in Django or in Drupal.
>>>>
>>>> Therefore, I believe that if a web2py project, be it CMS or otherwise 
>>>> gains a sufficient following, it could possibly be very successful.
>>>>
>>>> Just my 5c
>>>>
>>>> On Tuesday, July 31, 2012 9:40:15 PM UTC+8, Mariano Reingart wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, Jul 31, 2012 at 10:08 AM, Mariano Reingart <reing...@gmail.com> 
>>>>> wrote: 
>>>>> > On Mon, Jul 30, 2012 at 6:13 PM, Tim Michelsen 
>>>>> > <timmichel...@gmx-topmail.de> wrote: 
>>>>> >>> Instant Press is built by @Martin and I dont know if he gets 
>>>>> contribution 
>>>>> >>> Movu.ca is built by @rochacbruno (me) and I did not get too much 
>>>>> >>> contribution (two or 3 people helped with ideas and translations) 
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >> Do you think muvuca could be staffed with the features shown in 
>>>>> Mezzanine (I 
>>>>> >> haven't know it before nor used it): 
>>>>> >> 
>>>>> >>     Hierarchical page navigation 
>>>>> >>     Save as draft and preview on site 
>>>>> >>     Scheduled publishing 
>>>>> >>     Drag-and-drop page ordering 
>>>>> >>     WYSIWYG editing 
>>>>> >>     In-line page editing 
>>>>> >>     Drag-and-drop HTML5 forms builder with CSV export 
>>>>> >>     SEO friendly URLs and meta data 
>>>>> >>     Shopping cart module (Cartridge) 
>>>>> >>     Configurable dashboard widgets 
>>>>> >>     Blog engine 
>>>>> >>     Tagging 
>>>>> >>     User accounts and profiles with email verification 
>>>>> >>     Translated to over 20 languages 
>>>>> >>     Sharing via Facebook or Twitter 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > Please, take a look at web2conf: 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > https://code.google.com/p/web2conf/ 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > It has many of your requested features (wyswyg online editor, 
>>>>> > navigation bar, user profiles, twitter and blog/rss integration, 
>>>>> > schedule/ratings, translations). We are adding something similar to 
>>>>> a 
>>>>> > shopping cart for the registration system. 
>>>>> > Some features are made with plugins and/or are reusable outside the 
>>>>> > conference management system. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>> > If there is enough interest, we could improve and make it a general 
>>>>> CMS. 
>>>>> > Also, there are many companies and professionals that can be hired 
>>>>> to 
>>>>> > develop such a project, or contributing to existing ones. 
>>>>> > A fundraising would be a good option to start this. 
>>>>> > 
>>>>>
>>>>> BTW, measuring "community" is difficult. 
>>>>>
>>>>> For example, django has a larger community here in Argentina, but 
>>>>> earlier web-conference projects like PyCon-Tech failed to gain such 
>>>>> traction anyway, and current alternatives are too complex IMHO and 
>>>>> needs highly experienced developers. 
>>>>>
>>>>> I would also take into consideration maintainability (backward 
>>>>> compatibility, all-inclusive real full-stack features, compact code, 
>>>>> etc.) 
>>>>> Maybe you have to program a little more, but believe me, you will have 
>>>>> a better control of the situation, specially when you need to extend 
>>>>> or scale the app. 
>>>>> As someone told before, most of the features of a CMS are simple to 
>>>>> implement in web2py, maybe that's why there aren't many big and 
>>>>> complex projects. 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> I've made a blog post about this, telling the history of web2conf in 
>>>>> Argentina (in Spanish, sorry): 
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> http://pyconar.blogspot.com.ar/2012/07/sitio-web-de-pycon-argentina-un-poco-de.html
>>>>>  
>>>>>
>>>>> In brief, I've made a mistake selecting PyCon-Tech in 2009 for our 
>>>>> first conference. 
>>>>> As it was built in django (and used by PyConUS), I thought it have 
>>>>> enough community to at least fix bugs and survive. 
>>>>> I was wrong. 
>>>>> The project literally died and we even lost the web sites (django 
>>>>> 0.96, unmaitained, eat up all of our server memory) 
>>>>> Hopefully, with web2py, we could resurrect our old websites and go 
>>>>> ahead the last two years. 
>>>>>
>>>>> You can see it running here: 
>>>>>
>>>>> http://ar.pycon.org/2012 
>>>>>
>>>>> Best regards, 
>>>>>
>>>>> Mariano Reingart 
>>>>> http://www.sistemasagiles.com.ar 
>>>>> http://reingart.blogspot.com 
>>>>>
>>>>

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