I think everyone is agreeing that we should have a suitable replacement for 
EWS. 

But I also want to see us move forward with clean ups. I think such clean ups 
will bring clarity to what we would want our EWS testing to look like since 
we'll have fewer configurations to test. 

I like the approach of switching to manual testing in the short term, and 
working in parallel on an EWS replacement. 

Sent from my PDP-11

On Apr 4, 2013, at 12:02 PM, Brent Fulgham <[email protected]> wrote:

> Hi folks,
> 
> I definitely do not want to see the EWS system go away. But in the short term 
> , I would be in favor of manual commits and manual testing.
> 
> We still have the build bots running tests, so it's not like we lose all 
> coverage.
> 
> Thanks,
> 
> -Brent
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
> On Apr 4, 2013, at 11:56 AM, Geoffrey Garen <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
>>>> I'd also suggest purging the chromium layout tests ASAP so we can enjoy 
>>>> the much-reduced archive sync costs.
>>> 
>>> We really need to get the Mac or Win EWS performing tests by default and 
>>> reliably before doing this. At present, only the chromium-linux EWS bot has 
>>> been consistently running tests. When Mac/Win tests were turned on 
>>> recently, it resulted in huge backups on those EWS bots, and eventually 
>>> having tests disabled.
>> 
>> Sorry, I got excited and removed the Chromium test results before I read 
>> this email.
>> 
>> If committers are willing to do their own regression testing and committing, 
>> we can move forward with cleaning house. (For what it's worth, that's how 
>> I've always worked.)
>> 
>> Otherwise, if we want to depend on the Chromium EWS tester and the Chromium 
>> commit queue, we have to put cleaning house on hold. We need to keep the 
>> Chromium/v8 port building, and maintain its test results, until we have 
>> alternate sources for that stuff. If that's the consensus, I'll restore the 
>> cr-linux and cr-linux-x86 test results.
>> 
>> My preference is to move forward with cleaning house. It has already reduced 
>> the webkit download size by 1GB. What do other folks think?
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Geoff
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